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I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW Joel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM

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No foreigners allowed to do any sensitive election-related work?
View original postwhy is it not a problem that Hillary hired a foreign intelligence agent to interfere with the election? She hired him to create a document that was then given to the FBI and used to further an investigate into the campaign of her rival and that is OK? Paying a foreign agent to collect dirt is good but meeting with a possible foreign agent who claims they have dirt is bad? Have we stopped pretending both side play by the same rules?

Right, because British, Russian, all the same, right? Ever heard of the Five Eyes? And secondly, Steele was working for an independent commercial company, not as part of MI6 etc, hence not an agent for the British government. Though it does seem like he had close ties with British intelligence - but then, he also had ties with the FBI already.

However, Fusion GPS (i.e. the firm actually contracted to do the research) was co-founded by former Wall St. Journal journalist Glenn Simpson, and headquartered in Washington DC, so it is unclear they would qualify as "foreign," even if one of their employees working on the dossier happened to be a foreign national. For example (and a highly relevant parallel,) US law does not ban foreign lobbying of the US government, only requires that anyone and everyone lobbying the US government on behalf of a foreign entity register as foreign lobbyists, so when Paul Manaforts firm lobbied Congress and the White House on behalf of Viktor Yanukovychs "Ukrainian" government, Manforts employees involved in those efforts duly registered as foreign lobbyists: Manafort himself, despite being the firms CEO, did NOT, which has proven a regrettable (i.e. felonious) oversight.
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I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW - 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM 533 Views
Dear Joel, - 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM 675 Views
I have - 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM 596 Views
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WSJ source - 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM 731 Views
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