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Nope, just listening to the Russian Ambassador when Flynn repeatedly called during the campaign Joel Send a noteboard - 03/02/2018 04:11:27 AM

It says little of Flynn that it never occurred to him that US intelligence just MIGHT be tapping the Russian Ambassadors phone; even Kushner had enough snap to realize he needed to setup a "back channel" to Moscow off the coast of Africa, and he was just another Wall St. junk bond king, not a general officer in the US military who had spent most of his career planning against the possibility of total war against Russia.

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Giving the DOJ the power to tap the phone of the people who would be speaking to their bosses political rival during an election should have required extraordinary circumstance which does not seem to be the case here. The judge needs to answer some pointed questions.

Only if that happened, which it never did. I guarantee that if anyone on the Clinton campaign had called the Russian Ambassador during the campaign and discussed ending policies Russia disliked, they would, er, what was the Convention chant? "Lock her up, lock her up, lock her up...." I remember, because Flynn actually LED that chant at one point.

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So that memo was released.... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 06:59:35 PM 1390 Views
"God's in His heaven— All's right with the world!" Roland00 - 02/02/2018 07:14:41 PM 993 Views
Just reading the memo is indeed the best approach, I just did too. Legolas - 02/02/2018 08:20:01 PM 963 Views
I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM* AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM 505 Views
As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? *NM* Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:57 PM 553 Views
Re: As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:37:21 PM 888 Views
Yes, you did misunderstand me then. Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:17:27 AM 900 Views
yes, that's makes sense. AgentApple - 03/02/2018 09:41:46 AM 781 Views
It does bring up more questions... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 10:53:01 PM 928 Views
Seems you already decided on some answers in advance, though. Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:53:00 AM 783 Views
With over 34,000 FISA applications just 12 (not 12,000 or 1200 or 120) were denied. Tom - 03/02/2018 04:07:24 PM 937 Views
Correction: "just under", not "over" 34,000 Tom - 03/02/2018 10:08:54 PM 853 Views
Bah! LiterateDog - 03/02/2018 11:53:05 PM 889 Views
Ok, I really did laugh out loud at that Tom - 06/02/2018 09:16:50 PM 795 Views
Those are the ones we have to watch! aerocontrols - 04/02/2018 12:48:49 AM 835 Views
He's the primary demographic for the 4Chans, isn't he? *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:15:47 PM 528 Views
This part was quite revealing The Shrike - 02/02/2018 08:23:28 PM 824 Views
I do find it very telling how many members of the media are suddenly opposed to transparency random thoughts - 02/02/2018 08:51:28 PM 791 Views
Ironic, right? Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:43 PM 758 Views
So you are saying the House Intelligence Committee SHOULD release Schiffs rebuttal of Nunes' lies? Joel - 03/02/2018 03:58:13 AM 901 Views
I am for releasing all of it random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:28:57 AM 872 Views
You, Sen. Kennedy (R-LA) and NO ONE ELSE on the right. Joel - 04/02/2018 07:41:17 AM 1387 Views
To summarize..... Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:06 PM 827 Views
I seem to recall much incredulity when Trump claimed he was being wire tapped AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:15:14 PM 818 Views
Er. Let me see if I'm getting this right. Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:14 PM 849 Views
They did somehow tap Flynn AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:44:55 PM 800 Views
Keep in mind Sessions wanted Rosenstein to resign random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:28:52 PM 736 Views
Why would SESSIONS want Rosenstein fired? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:22:16 AM 849 Views
It was on a list of about 40 Sessions wanted fired. Probably becuase he is a lib *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:31:13 AM 541 Views
Sessions is a lib? Do you mean Libertarian? Joel - 04/02/2018 07:57:45 AM 1416 Views
No, they tapped the Russian Ambassador to the US, per SOP; not the FBIs fault Flynn called him. Joel - 03/02/2018 03:59:54 AM 798 Views
no but were they listening when he spoke to Trump? random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:25:30 PM 789 Views
Nope, just listening to the Russian Ambassador when Flynn repeatedly called during the campaign Joel - 03/02/2018 04:11:27 AM 830 Views
Actually, also, seems I missed a fairly crucial point until now, as did others here... Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:15:10 AM 916 Views
If working with a forgein agent is such a sin... random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:22:41 PM 806 Views
You're saying oppo research should have its own kind of Jones Act? Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:51:27 AM 773 Views
No I am saying that it seen as crimianl when one side does and no big deal when the other does it random thoughts - 03/02/2018 01:15:22 AM 831 Views
I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW Joel - 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM 751 Views
Actually, JEB BUSH hired the former MI6 agents firm to do oppo research on Trump during the primary Joel - 03/02/2018 04:03:08 AM 901 Views
Sometimes I forget how right-wing most everyone here is. The memo itself is just nonsense. Ghavrel - 03/02/2018 02:44:16 AM 895 Views
Ironic, since Republicans Mueller, Comey and Wray threatened to resign over Ws warrantless taps Joel - 03/02/2018 04:07:10 AM 813 Views
I can't speak for the present with too much information is unknown Roland00 - 03/02/2018 04:51:14 AM 826 Views
Everyone looks right wing to someone on the far left. The Shrike - 03/02/2018 03:04:48 PM 789 Views
The memo is clearly not nonsense to the extent it shows abuse within the FBI. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:15:49 PM 828 Views
Fruit of the poisonous tree wouldn't apply here, though. Ghavrel - 04/02/2018 05:40:44 AM 827 Views
I would certainly argue it Tom - 05/02/2018 04:55:18 PM 747 Views
I think you'd win! Insofar as you'd get the FISA warrant excluded. Ghavrel - 07/02/2018 07:01:42 AM 846 Views
Actually, everyone I have seen exposing the material falsehoods Nunes invented are Republicans Joel - 03/02/2018 03:54:03 AM 898 Views
Dear Joel, damookster - 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM 878 Views
I have Joel - 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM 795 Views
You’re getting to old to be this naive damookster - 03/02/2018 05:17:44 AM 804 Views
Never said either side is the good guys Joel - 03/02/2018 05:36:55 AM 798 Views
Don't feed the Joel. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:17:12 PM 768 Views
Turn him to any cause of policy, The Gordian Knot of it he will tangle, Familiar as his garter Roland00 - 03/02/2018 10:51:36 PM 825 Views
I sort of want to like this, but your answers keep getting weirder and weirder *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:17:42 PM 456 Views
WSJ source Roland00 - 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM 938 Views
You believe the commie liberals at Rupert Murdochs Wall Street Journal? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:14:08 AM 806 Views
well as long as you have an unnaamed source it must be true *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 01:05:36 AM 548 Views
What is your point? *NM* Roland00 - 04/02/2018 01:53:37 AM 479 Views
What is yours? random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:30:51 PM 718 Views
We are having completely different conversations right now, and completely different things we are Roland00 - 04/02/2018 11:38:35 PM 874 Views
Yeah, look what happens when you shit on the Fourth Amendment. Vodalus - 03/02/2018 09:09:00 PM 808 Views
Right, because the President of the United States is just a private citizen Joel - 04/02/2018 08:08:32 AM 1392 Views
The point was that the people in power want the Fourth Amendment to apply, or not, as they see fit. Vodalus - 06/02/2018 08:16:19 PM 725 Views
The key issue is being ignored random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:35:32 PM 743 Views
Answer = Hell Yes Anonymous2000 - 04/02/2018 09:00:49 PM 745 Views
Does anybody still cares about the Nunes memo? I ask for the Schiff memo was released? Roland00 - 26/02/2018 11:14:51 PM 982 Views
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