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Actually, also, seems I missed a fairly crucial point until now, as did others here... Legolas Send a noteboard - 03/02/2018 01:15:10 AM

Quoting from the article linked (and yes, I also verified the key timeline point there myself, just now):


'The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court issued the warrant, the official said, after investigators determined that Mr. Page was no longer part of the Trump campaign, which began distancing itself from him in early August. Mr. Page is one of several Trump associates under scrutiny in a federal investigation.

The Justice Department considered direct surveillance of anyone tied to a political campaign as a line it did not want to cross, the official added. But its decision to seek a wiretap once it was clear that Mr. Page had left the campaign was the latest indication that, as Mr. Trump built his insurgent run for the White House, the F.B.I. was deeply concerned about whether any of his associates were colluding with Russia.'


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So that memo was released.... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 06:59:35 PM 1490 Views
"God's in His heaven— All's right with the world!" Roland00 - 02/02/2018 07:14:41 PM 1078 Views
Just reading the memo is indeed the best approach, I just did too. Legolas - 02/02/2018 08:20:01 PM 1066 Views
I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM* AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM 544 Views
As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? *NM* Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:57 PM 579 Views
Re: As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:37:21 PM 968 Views
Yes, you did misunderstand me then. Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:17:27 AM 981 Views
yes, that's makes sense. AgentApple - 03/02/2018 09:41:46 AM 887 Views
It does bring up more questions... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 10:53:01 PM 1006 Views
Seems you already decided on some answers in advance, though. Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:53:00 AM 886 Views
With over 34,000 FISA applications just 12 (not 12,000 or 1200 or 120) were denied. Tom - 03/02/2018 04:07:24 PM 1014 Views
Correction: "just under", not "over" 34,000 Tom - 03/02/2018 10:08:54 PM 933 Views
Bah! LiterateDog - 03/02/2018 11:53:05 PM 963 Views
Ok, I really did laugh out loud at that Tom - 06/02/2018 09:16:50 PM 875 Views
Those are the ones we have to watch! aerocontrols - 04/02/2018 12:48:49 AM 894 Views
He's the primary demographic for the 4Chans, isn't he? *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:15:47 PM 577 Views
This part was quite revealing The Shrike - 02/02/2018 08:23:28 PM 919 Views
I do find it very telling how many members of the media are suddenly opposed to transparency random thoughts - 02/02/2018 08:51:28 PM 873 Views
Ironic, right? Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:43 PM 829 Views
So you are saying the House Intelligence Committee SHOULD release Schiffs rebuttal of Nunes' lies? Joel - 03/02/2018 03:58:13 AM 969 Views
I am for releasing all of it random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:28:57 AM 964 Views
You, Sen. Kennedy (R-LA) and NO ONE ELSE on the right. Joel - 04/02/2018 07:41:17 AM 1459 Views
To summarize..... Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:06 PM 899 Views
I seem to recall much incredulity when Trump claimed he was being wire tapped AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:15:14 PM 892 Views
Er. Let me see if I'm getting this right. Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:14 PM 941 Views
They did somehow tap Flynn AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:44:55 PM 882 Views
Keep in mind Sessions wanted Rosenstein to resign random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:28:52 PM 811 Views
Why would SESSIONS want Rosenstein fired? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:22:16 AM 923 Views
It was on a list of about 40 Sessions wanted fired. Probably becuase he is a lib *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:31:13 AM 580 Views
Sessions is a lib? Do you mean Libertarian? Joel - 04/02/2018 07:57:45 AM 1482 Views
No, they tapped the Russian Ambassador to the US, per SOP; not the FBIs fault Flynn called him. Joel - 03/02/2018 03:59:54 AM 896 Views
no but were they listening when he spoke to Trump? random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:25:30 PM 860 Views
Nope, just listening to the Russian Ambassador when Flynn repeatedly called during the campaign Joel - 03/02/2018 04:11:27 AM 910 Views
Actually, also, seems I missed a fairly crucial point until now, as did others here... Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:15:10 AM 998 Views
If working with a forgein agent is such a sin... random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:22:41 PM 868 Views
You're saying oppo research should have its own kind of Jones Act? Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:51:27 AM 877 Views
No I am saying that it seen as crimianl when one side does and no big deal when the other does it random thoughts - 03/02/2018 01:15:22 AM 904 Views
I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW Joel - 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM 821 Views
Actually, JEB BUSH hired the former MI6 agents firm to do oppo research on Trump during the primary Joel - 03/02/2018 04:03:08 AM 981 Views
Sometimes I forget how right-wing most everyone here is. The memo itself is just nonsense. Ghavrel - 03/02/2018 02:44:16 AM 963 Views
Ironic, since Republicans Mueller, Comey and Wray threatened to resign over Ws warrantless taps Joel - 03/02/2018 04:07:10 AM 890 Views
I can't speak for the present with too much information is unknown Roland00 - 03/02/2018 04:51:14 AM 918 Views
Everyone looks right wing to someone on the far left. The Shrike - 03/02/2018 03:04:48 PM 934 Views
The memo is clearly not nonsense to the extent it shows abuse within the FBI. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:15:49 PM 894 Views
Fruit of the poisonous tree wouldn't apply here, though. Ghavrel - 04/02/2018 05:40:44 AM 896 Views
I would certainly argue it Tom - 05/02/2018 04:55:18 PM 831 Views
I think you'd win! Insofar as you'd get the FISA warrant excluded. Ghavrel - 07/02/2018 07:01:42 AM 928 Views
Actually, everyone I have seen exposing the material falsehoods Nunes invented are Republicans Joel - 03/02/2018 03:54:03 AM 974 Views
Dear Joel, damookster - 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM 972 Views
I have Joel - 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM 865 Views
You’re getting to old to be this naive damookster - 03/02/2018 05:17:44 AM 890 Views
Never said either side is the good guys Joel - 03/02/2018 05:36:55 AM 873 Views
Don't feed the Joel. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:17:12 PM 866 Views
Turn him to any cause of policy, The Gordian Knot of it he will tangle, Familiar as his garter Roland00 - 03/02/2018 10:51:36 PM 896 Views
I sort of want to like this, but your answers keep getting weirder and weirder *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:17:42 PM 492 Views
WSJ source Roland00 - 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM 998 Views
You believe the commie liberals at Rupert Murdochs Wall Street Journal? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:14:08 AM 887 Views
well as long as you have an unnaamed source it must be true *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 01:05:36 AM 589 Views
What is your point? *NM* Roland00 - 04/02/2018 01:53:37 AM 511 Views
What is yours? random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:30:51 PM 797 Views
We are having completely different conversations right now, and completely different things we are Roland00 - 04/02/2018 11:38:35 PM 954 Views
Yeah, look what happens when you shit on the Fourth Amendment. Vodalus - 03/02/2018 09:09:00 PM 899 Views
Right, because the President of the United States is just a private citizen Joel - 04/02/2018 08:08:32 AM 1487 Views
The point was that the people in power want the Fourth Amendment to apply, or not, as they see fit. Vodalus - 06/02/2018 08:16:19 PM 802 Views
The key issue is being ignored random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:35:32 PM 812 Views
Answer = Hell Yes Anonymous2000 - 04/02/2018 09:00:49 PM 800 Views
Does anybody still cares about the Nunes memo? I ask for the Schiff memo was released? Roland00 - 26/02/2018 11:14:51 PM 1061 Views
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