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I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM* AgentApple Send a noteboard - 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM

View original postBut now that I've read it, it does leave open a number of questions to be answered - some of them relatively easily answerable, others will probably remain unanswered to the general public but maybe not to Congress. Such as:


View original post- Was there other relevant information used for the FISA application against Carter Page? How large a role would the Steele dossier on its own have played in the approval? The memo says 'an essential part' but that's not exactly specific.


View original post- How much detail is usually submitted in FISA applications about the provenance of the information used?


View original post- How realistic is the memo's noble notion that FISA applications 'should include information potentially favorable to the target of the FISA application that is known to the government'? Does the FBI really make a habit of being so generous towards people they want to spy on, knowing that the whole application process is secret and their target won't find out anyway? Pretty important question which might also make a big difference to how people feel about the FISA process in general...


View original post- If this FISA application targeting Carter Page was done merely to discredit Trump by a biased FBI, how is it that it was renewed multiple times under president Trump, with Trump appointees Dana Boente and Rod Rosenstein, as per the memo, signing the requests for renewal on behalf of the DoJ?


View original post- The Mother Jones article of October 30th 2016, which as per the memo first revealed to the general public that Steele was a source for the FBI, also correctly mentions that the financing of his dossier 'switched to a source allied with the Democrats'. Even if we accept that the original FISA approval of October 21st was made by people who didn't possess that information, and if we accept that they would have ruled differently if they had possessed it, still it's clear that as from October 30th, the financing point was publicly available knowledge. Yet the FISA approval was renewed 3 more times. Why is that, were the judges approving it really so clueless?


View original post- The memo notes that Steele was 'a longtime FBI source' at the time he worked on the dossier, and that the DNC/Clinton campaign funded this research via a law firm. It does not say, and having searched a bit around I also don't see this anywhere else, that when Steele passed his dossier to the FBI, he had any instruction to do so from Clinton, the DNC or the law firm. Some sources explicitly say the opposite, that he decided to send his information to the FBI on his own volition. Is there any proof that Clinton or the DNC did in fact direct him to do so?


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View original postI can see why the Democrats are scrambling and doing everything that they can to discredit it or frame it differently. The DNC & Clinton Campaign, along with their inside help, were/are trying anything and everything.


View original postThe DNC and Clinton campaign were funding opposition research, like everybody does in American politics. As shown above, them being linked to this particular opposition research dossier was public knowledge since at least October 30th 2016, before the election, we didn't need this memo for that. The memo doesn't actually show them doing anything beyond that, as far as I can see.


View original postDon't get me wrong, the memo does certainly raise questions about the FBI's FISA application into Page and more generally their investigation into Trump's links with Russia, and I do think that those questions would need to be answered in a satisfactory way (although those answers may not be as easy to declassify as the memo itself). I might add that even liberals might appreciate the opportunity to critically review the whole FISA process. But the memo doesn't actually answer too many questions by itself.

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So that memo was released.... - 02/02/2018 06:59:35 PM 1214 Views
"God's in His heaven— All's right with the world!" - 02/02/2018 07:14:41 PM 752 Views
Just reading the memo is indeed the best approach, I just did too. - 02/02/2018 08:20:01 PM 766 Views
I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM* - 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM 375 Views
As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? *NM* - 02/02/2018 09:34:57 PM 414 Views
Re: As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? - 02/02/2018 10:37:21 PM 684 Views
Yes, you did misunderstand me then. - 03/02/2018 12:17:27 AM 694 Views
yes, that's makes sense. - 03/02/2018 09:41:46 AM 578 Views
It does bring up more questions... - 02/02/2018 10:53:01 PM 721 Views
Seems you already decided on some answers in advance, though. - 03/02/2018 01:53:00 AM 581 Views
With over 34,000 FISA applications just 12 (not 12,000 or 1200 or 120) were denied. - 03/02/2018 04:07:24 PM 735 Views
Correction: "just under", not "over" 34,000 - 03/02/2018 10:08:54 PM 666 Views
Bah! - 03/02/2018 11:53:05 PM 670 Views
Ok, I really did laugh out loud at that - 06/02/2018 09:16:50 PM 531 Views
Those are the ones we have to watch! - 04/02/2018 12:48:49 AM 640 Views
He's the primary demographic for the 4Chans, isn't he? *NM* - 06/02/2018 09:15:47 PM 386 Views
This part was quite revealing - 02/02/2018 08:23:28 PM 615 Views
I do find it very telling how many members of the media are suddenly opposed to transparency - 02/02/2018 08:51:28 PM 596 Views
Ironic, right? - 02/02/2018 09:12:43 PM 560 Views
So you are saying the House Intelligence Committee SHOULD release Schiffs rebuttal of Nunes' lies? - 03/02/2018 03:58:13 AM 696 Views
I am for releasing all of it - 04/02/2018 12:28:57 AM 673 Views
You, Sen. Kennedy (R-LA) and NO ONE ELSE on the right. - 04/02/2018 07:41:17 AM 1021 Views
To summarize..... - 02/02/2018 09:12:06 PM 633 Views
I seem to recall much incredulity when Trump claimed he was being wire tapped - 02/02/2018 09:15:14 PM 599 Views
Er. Let me see if I'm getting this right. - 02/02/2018 09:34:14 PM 653 Views
They did somehow tap Flynn - 02/02/2018 10:44:55 PM 597 Views
Keep in mind Sessions wanted Rosenstein to resign - 02/02/2018 11:28:52 PM 519 Views
Why would SESSIONS want Rosenstein fired? - 03/02/2018 05:22:16 AM 640 Views
It was on a list of about 40 Sessions wanted fired. Probably becuase he is a lib *NM* - 04/02/2018 12:31:13 AM 408 Views
Sessions is a lib? Do you mean Libertarian? - 04/02/2018 07:57:45 AM 1061 Views
Dear Joel, - 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM 675 Views
I have - 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM 596 Views
You’re getting to old to be this naive - 03/02/2018 05:17:44 AM 592 Views
Never said either side is the good guys - 03/02/2018 05:36:55 AM 585 Views
WSJ source - 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM 731 Views
well as long as you have an unnaamed source it must be true *NM* - 04/02/2018 01:05:36 AM 419 Views
What is your point? *NM* - 04/02/2018 01:53:37 AM 349 Views
What is yours? - 04/02/2018 04:30:51 PM 515 Views
The key issue is being ignored - 04/02/2018 04:35:32 PM 540 Views
Answer = Hell Yes - 04/02/2018 09:00:49 PM 544 Views

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