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Rodgers is better Joel Send a noteboard - 02/02/2018 09:15:49 AM

I hate the Pack as much as you do, for all the same reasons, but that combination of range, accuracy and vision in a true dual-threat QB is unreal. The only comparable passer who comes to mind is the original Captain Comeback (who knows where he, the Cowboys and even the Pack would be if the David Robinson Rule had existed in the late '60s? Nothing wrong with Dandy Don, but I must believe Staubach throws the game-winning TD—or runs it in himself—in the '66 NFC Championship rather than throwing an endzone interception.) Elway came close, but his accuracy was too often too spotty (or his vision, depending how one wants to "view" it.)

Brady, like his rival Peyton, idol Montana and even the great Johnny U, is a pure pocket passer: Part of his "constancy" is showing time and again that good pressure up the gut (NOT on the edges, where he can see it in time to react) wrecks him. Even when it does not cause an incompletion, sack or interception, the times it DID gets in his head and disrupts his rhythm the rest of the game. That is why he has a losing playoff record against BOTH Mannings: Not only is he 0-2 against Eli on the largest stage, but Terrance "Pot Roast" Knighton annihilated him in the 2013 AFC Championship, and Derek Wolfe and Malik Jackson did the same in the 2015 rematch (even if DeMarcus Ware and Von Miller got all the stats and glory, you can bet those guys would have been double teamed if Wolfe and Jackson had left that option available; as it was, Wolfe still picked up a sack of his own and led the team in tackles.)

Plus anyone who has ever held a football one-handed knows under-inflated ones are easier to grip. But hey, I believe Belichick when he said he did not even know there WAS an NFL rule on ball pressure; granted, I had already known for years despite never playing anything but sandlot ball, and he is a notoriously meticulous micromanager but, sure, his story is totally plausible. Just as it is completely believable that a low level equipment manager went rogue on a head coach just as notorious for cutting a guy for showing up late to a team meeting a week after he led the league in rushing yards, despite the fact the team had NO run game then nor for three years before and since. It is not as if his current OC attempted precisely the same illegal taping shenanigans as the Broncos head coach that allowed the underdog wildcard Cheatriots to begin their dynasty by ending the Greatest Show on Turfs bid for a second championship.

Comparing Brady to Unitas or Staubach is apples and oranges, alright: Those guys did not have a dishonest bone in their bodies.

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