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Should change occur in one's lifetime or only seen through a generational prism? *NM* Roland00 Send a noteboard - 23/01/2018 11:07:47 PM

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I'm not arguing that the language should be "ossified" as you put it. I'm just saying change should be organic and slow, not artificial and fast. "Organic and slow" makes concessions to changes in usage, spelling, etc. that stick. "Artificial and fast" makes concessions to the stupid and ignorant, who won't appreciate it anyway.

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The Fascinating History of 10 Extra Letters the English Alphabet Used to Have The Shrike - 18/01/2018 06:35:45 PM 1125 Views
I have to take issue with the & and the "long s" Tom - 18/01/2018 07:28:09 PM 474 Views
Ok, let's define what a letter is. The Shrike - 18/01/2018 11:25:22 PM 514 Views
Yes, the long "s" is just a variant. It didn't have a name in Old English. Tom - 19/01/2018 03:39:51 PM 674 Views
I don't think not having a name in Old English matters here. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 05:05:47 PM 767 Views
I think it does, quite definitively. Tom - 20/01/2018 08:46:24 PM 481 Views
All th Germans I have known have considered ß to be a letter. The Shrike - 20/01/2018 11:01:40 PM 538 Views
ß is a ligature Tom - 21/01/2018 04:04:48 PM 482 Views
That article is even sloppier than the first Tom - 20/01/2018 09:01:33 PM 462 Views
All letters were once "fake". The Shrike - 20/01/2018 10:59:11 PM 549 Views
Isn't that kind of idealist Roland00 - 21/01/2018 08:02:14 AM 507 Views
Realist perhaps The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:54:14 AM 471 Views
Pivots Roland00 - 22/01/2018 03:43:56 AM 590 Views
Meanwhile The Shrike - 22/01/2018 12:23:13 PM 433 Views
Olympics are grand aren't they? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:23:56 PM 273 Views
Deutschland, Deutschland! The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:26:50 PM 382 Views
No, actually that's quite incorrect. Tom - 21/01/2018 04:14:18 PM 483 Views
You've missed the point. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:53:59 AM 501 Views
No, I'm trying to show the qualitative difference between the two events. Tom - 22/01/2018 04:34:20 PM 418 Views
The letter J? *NM* Roland00 - 22/01/2018 05:19:14 PM 320 Views
No, J is a lot like the long s. Tom - 22/01/2018 07:23:01 PM 465 Views
Feels we are talking past each other. Roland00 - 22/01/2018 07:52:53 PM 516 Views
You're wrong. Tom - 23/01/2018 01:21:26 AM 553 Views
Agreed. Ligatures aren't letters. *NM* Ghavrel - 19/01/2018 06:13:43 AM 308 Views
Eh . . . the Ampersand is probably now considered a logogram rather than a ligature. The Shrike - 19/01/2018 01:27:21 PM 472 Views
ſ is just a variant. *NM* Tom - 19/01/2018 03:40:53 PM 349 Views
I enjoy this thread muchly...yet I will not participate besides saying Roland00 - 19/01/2018 10:46:40 PM 446 Views
You're using sublime too often; it's losing its luster The Shrike - 20/01/2018 12:15:10 AM 510 Views
Do I? (in regards to sublime) Roland00 - 20/01/2018 12:46:35 AM 431 Views
(in regards to sublime) damookster - 20/01/2018 03:18:04 PM 480 Views
Brilliant! *NM* Floffe - 20/01/2018 03:38:39 PM 274 Views
The Shrike - 20/01/2018 11:20:11 PM 482 Views
*NM* globug0822 - 23/01/2018 09:18:01 PM 283 Views
Is this payback for the irritating word, Umami? Roland00 - 24/01/2018 07:25:56 AM 383 Views
Upapi? *NM* damookster - 25/01/2018 08:41:14 PM 318 Views
Thank all gods everywhere they are gone. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 12:23:34 PM 461 Views
Some other letters should go too. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 01:12:31 PM 536 Views
How would you replace the ch sound? Roland00 - 22/01/2018 04:15:04 PM 485 Views
I'm against removing letters that have done perfectly well for over 2500 years, thank you Tom - 22/01/2018 04:41:23 PM 457 Views
And I am not. We have had this debate before. To each his own. :-) The Shrike - 22/01/2018 05:22:36 PM 435 Views
Attic Greek was written in uncials that are easy to read Tom - 22/01/2018 07:24:51 PM 443 Views
I thought of removing C, as well. LiterateDog - 22/01/2018 06:16:20 PM 467 Views
The CH is a problem. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 06:34:47 PM 377 Views
And calling people you don't like "fu king unts"? *NM* Tom - 22/01/2018 07:25:29 PM 373 Views
Meanwhile if it were written as fuking kunts, no one would have any issues The Shrike - 22/01/2018 07:54:41 PM 539 Views
I have an issue, kunts looks too much like nuts or knuts Roland00 - 22/01/2018 08:09:52 PM 461 Views
Would you prefer a Knut? The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:09 PM 435 Views
Yes I like my internet memes and thus I do not want to be confused by that word sometimes directed Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:28:58 PM 403 Views
Yes, ask him The Shrike - 24/01/2018 01:32:08 AM 434 Views
Totes I will ask him about Tot *NM* Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:49:45 PM 304 Views
Yes, about the meanings. Pronounced quite differently. Legolas - 25/01/2018 06:17:22 PM 527 Views
Scheisse. I did forget it. The Shrike - 26/01/2018 05:24:21 PM 442 Views
You mean Scheiße? *NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 06:49:26 PM 294 Views
No. I mean Scheisse. *NM* The Shrike - 26/01/2018 07:15:21 PM 324 Views
*NM* Tom - 26/01/2018 11:07:18 PM 376 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 28/01/2018 02:15:03 AM 290 Views
all those k's.... damookster - 22/01/2018 08:23:09 PM 419 Views
So . . . no Klondike bars or Kit Kats for you. The Shrike - 22/01/2018 10:55:53 PM 513 Views
But it would look "fuking" stupid Tom - 23/01/2018 01:30:15 AM 444 Views
All languages change The Shrike - 23/01/2018 01:40:18 AM 428 Views
They change, but resistance is not futile. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:10:17 AM 496 Views
Also, you're not talking about the language changing. You're talking about changing the language. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:16:39 AM 498 Views
I am being a realist who understands that spellings change. Letters get dropped. Language evolves. The Shrike - 23/01/2018 06:53:25 PM 531 Views
It is posts like this that remind me why you are my RAFO tree Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:29:53 PM 419 Views
Nope sadly he did not *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 10:30:09 PM 231 Views
What are you talking about here? The Shrike - 24/01/2018 12:21:55 PM 438 Views
I am talking about Logograms Roland00 - 24/01/2018 09:48:48 PM 439 Views
Evolution, not revolution Tom - 23/01/2018 10:54:37 PM 571 Views
Should change occur in one's lifetime or only seen through a generational prism? *NM* Roland00 - 23/01/2018 11:07:47 PM 291 Views
I guess it depends on how long one's life is. Tom - 23/01/2018 11:39:40 PM 433 Views
It's also one of the reasons I am against the 1918 spelling reforms in Russia. Tom - 23/01/2018 02:06:34 AM 552 Views
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