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The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM


"enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter."

https://www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility

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Pope Francis must be declared a heretic and burned. Tom - 09/12/2017 03:14:16 AM 1985 Views
Oooh, theodicy. Legolas - 09/12/2017 03:28:21 AM 1078 Views
Well, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" a couple of times. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/12/2017 09:22:05 AM 574 Views
That’s a much better song too *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:05:04 PM 665 Views
That was just so he could murder all their sons and prove he is awesome. random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:24:16 PM 1032 Views
Never heard that one. The Trainspotting song “Temptation” is much better (Crowded House sucks) *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:02:37 PM 613 Views
Auto-da-fé, what's an auto-da-fé? It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway! *NM* Roland00 - 09/12/2017 03:55:47 AM 642 Views
Revelation 22:18, 19 damookster - 09/12/2017 07:02:55 PM 961 Views
Does it have to be fire? I do not like the smell of burnt human flesh. Is it okay with the council Roland00 - 09/12/2017 11:55:31 PM 915 Views
Only fire can purify the stain of heresy. *NM* damookster - 10/12/2017 01:21:58 AM 681 Views
We have to burn you for blasphemy by comparing Francis to Christ Tom - 10/12/2017 02:04:04 PM 954 Views
I just find this deeply ironic that is all *NM* Roland00 - 10/12/2017 08:35:26 PM 602 Views
I'll search for an Italian transcript later, but... Larry - 10/12/2017 03:10:06 PM 1149 Views
It's not subjunctive per se. It's a negative imperative, damnit. Tom - 11/12/2017 02:11:53 AM 1000 Views
I hadn't seen this post before I posted... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:46:07 AM 937 Views
It's been 23 years since my last Latin class Larry - 11/12/2017 04:48:54 AM 1125 Views
My mother and a family friend priest drove by today... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:38:49 AM 1014 Views
It's because it's *not* a translation issue, and Francis is deceiving the faithful. Tom - 11/12/2017 05:46:27 AM 992 Views
And what the fuck is wrong with this website? I didn't indent numbers and I used 1, 2, 3, 4 Tom - 11/12/2017 05:47:42 AM 1068 Views
Incidentally, the numbers showed up accurately in my response while quoting, so who knows? *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:12:44 AM 624 Views
For the record, I'm not saying you're wrong... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:11:59 AM 974 Views
You know, now that I think about it, Job isn't a good reference. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:21:13 AM 1126 Views
Tom is correct, but let me make the argument that the Pope is right Roland00 - 11/12/2017 08:49:35 PM 1321 Views
If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ Tom - 12/12/2017 03:43:50 PM 985 Views
I've read that "heresy" comes from words meaning 'to cut' or else to 'seize or take away' Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:56:19 PM 993 Views
Re: If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ TyrReborn - 12/12/2017 06:24:58 PM 993 Views
The vicar of Christ doesn't get to change the words of Christ. damookster - 11/12/2017 08:12:22 AM 1059 Views
Fair enough. *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 05:44:46 PM 597 Views
but he is infallible ???? random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:22:02 PM 948 Views
The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM 995 Views
Link not working for you? *NM* random thoughts - 12/12/2017 12:44:23 AM 638 Views
Yes, and thankfully he wasn't making a proclamation ex cathedra. Tom - 12/12/2017 01:09:25 AM 964 Views
I mean...I love me some theology... Jeordam - 11/12/2017 10:56:34 PM 1042 Views
The problem is that I don't think he was thinking at all Tom - 13/12/2017 06:22:14 PM 924 Views
No arguments here Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:51:59 PM 973 Views
Well, I needed to at least mention the Orthodoxy-Catholicism split Tom - 12/12/2017 05:01:54 PM 1081 Views
Can't you just depose him. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 05:49:59 PM 905 Views
I could, but where's the fun in that? Tom - 13/12/2017 06:20:18 PM 1033 Views
Because he would have to live with being deposed. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 07:05:35 PM 931 Views
As Stalin said, Нет человека, нет проблемы Tom - 13/12/2017 09:06:44 PM 1018 Views
Like fire / Hellfire / This fire in my skin / This burning / Desire / Is turning me to sin *NM* Roland00 - 13/12/2017 09:21:16 PM 690 Views
How about we just send him to Avignon. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 11:31:25 PM 983 Views
If we send him in a soundproof box so all he can do is waive endlessly, sure! Tom - 14/12/2017 12:32:04 AM 1016 Views
Schrodinger's Pope(s)? *NM* Roland00 - 15/12/2017 10:01:35 PM 578 Views
That would be fun. No one would know if he's alive or dead. *NM* Tom - 16/12/2017 03:50:13 AM 562 Views
Waive endlessly? Larry - 18/12/2017 03:06:39 AM 1106 Views
It's the consequence of writing this in between contract revisions Tom - 18/12/2017 02:52:15 PM 1164 Views
I've had that happen before, minus the contract legalese Larry - 20/12/2017 03:43:50 AM 983 Views
music to burn heretics by... damookster - 13/12/2017 10:44:51 PM 1105 Views
That is truly obscure Tom - 14/12/2017 12:39:43 AM 953 Views
It could be worse, my favorite 2 christmas albums are Roland00 - 14/12/2017 03:25:38 AM 967 Views
Sounds like your father was a wise man *NM* random thoughts - 14/12/2017 12:54:20 PM 605 Views
And he's still going nearly 50 years later... Simon - 16/12/2017 02:32:41 PM 1783 Views
That’s amazing. He’s still crazy. *NM* damookster - 16/12/2017 03:31:36 PM 593 Views
Agreed. *NM* Simon - 01/01/2018 01:59:14 PM 1151 Views
I'd like to thank everyone who replied to get the folder on fire. It adds a je ne sais quoi to it. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2017 05:10:02 PM 632 Views
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