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The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM


"enjoys in virtue of his office, when, as the supreme shepherd and teacher of all the faithful, who confirms his brethren in their faith (Luke 22:32), he proclaims by a definitive act some doctrine of faith or morals. Therefore his definitions, of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, are justly held irreformable, for they are pronounced with the assistance of the Holy Spirit, an assistance promised to him in blessed Peter."

https://www.catholic.com/tract/papal-infallibility

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Pope Francis must be declared a heretic and burned. Tom - 09/12/2017 03:14:16 AM 1780 Views
Oooh, theodicy. Legolas - 09/12/2017 03:28:21 AM 913 Views
Well, God "hardened Pharaoh's heart" a couple of times. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/12/2017 09:22:05 AM 485 Views
That’s a much better song too *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:05:04 PM 575 Views
That was just so he could murder all their sons and prove he is awesome. random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:24:16 PM 880 Views
Never heard that one. The Trainspotting song “Temptation” is much better (Crowded House sucks) *NM* Tom - 10/12/2017 02:02:37 PM 528 Views
Auto-da-fé, what's an auto-da-fé? It's what you oughtn't to do but you do anyway! *NM* Roland00 - 09/12/2017 03:55:47 AM 566 Views
Revelation 22:18, 19 damookster - 09/12/2017 07:02:55 PM 795 Views
Does it have to be fire? I do not like the smell of burnt human flesh. Is it okay with the council Roland00 - 09/12/2017 11:55:31 PM 769 Views
Only fire can purify the stain of heresy. *NM* damookster - 10/12/2017 01:21:58 AM 588 Views
We have to burn you for blasphemy by comparing Francis to Christ Tom - 10/12/2017 02:04:04 PM 801 Views
I just find this deeply ironic that is all *NM* Roland00 - 10/12/2017 08:35:26 PM 516 Views
I'll search for an Italian transcript later, but... Larry - 10/12/2017 03:10:06 PM 1004 Views
It's not subjunctive per se. It's a negative imperative, damnit. Tom - 11/12/2017 02:11:53 AM 819 Views
I hadn't seen this post before I posted... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:46:07 AM 786 Views
It's been 23 years since my last Latin class Larry - 11/12/2017 04:48:54 AM 944 Views
My mother and a family friend priest drove by today... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 04:38:49 AM 856 Views
It's because it's *not* a translation issue, and Francis is deceiving the faithful. Tom - 11/12/2017 05:46:27 AM 814 Views
And what the fuck is wrong with this website? I didn't indent numbers and I used 1, 2, 3, 4 Tom - 11/12/2017 05:47:42 AM 900 Views
Incidentally, the numbers showed up accurately in my response while quoting, so who knows? *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:12:44 AM 539 Views
For the record, I'm not saying you're wrong... TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:11:59 AM 820 Views
You know, now that I think about it, Job isn't a good reference. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 07:21:13 AM 964 Views
Tom is correct, but let me make the argument that the Pope is right Roland00 - 11/12/2017 08:49:35 PM 1141 Views
If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ Tom - 12/12/2017 03:43:50 PM 814 Views
I've read that "heresy" comes from words meaning 'to cut' or else to 'seize or take away' Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:56:19 PM 849 Views
Re: If it is not a translation problem (and it isn't), then the Pope is changing the words of Christ TyrReborn - 12/12/2017 06:24:58 PM 835 Views
The vicar of Christ doesn't get to change the words of Christ. damookster - 11/12/2017 08:12:22 AM 908 Views
Fair enough. *NM* TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 05:44:46 PM 508 Views
but he is infallible ???? random thoughts - 11/12/2017 09:22:02 PM 801 Views
The Pope is only infallible in certain situations. TyrReborn - 11/12/2017 10:40:28 PM 842 Views
Link not working for you? *NM* random thoughts - 12/12/2017 12:44:23 AM 550 Views
Yes, and thankfully he wasn't making a proclamation ex cathedra. Tom - 12/12/2017 01:09:25 AM 816 Views
I mean...I love me some theology... Jeordam - 11/12/2017 10:56:34 PM 883 Views
The problem is that I don't think he was thinking at all Tom - 13/12/2017 06:22:14 PM 758 Views
No arguments here Cannoli - 12/12/2017 03:51:59 PM 818 Views
Well, I needed to at least mention the Orthodoxy-Catholicism split Tom - 12/12/2017 05:01:54 PM 908 Views
Can't you just depose him. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 05:49:59 PM 774 Views
I could, but where's the fun in that? Tom - 13/12/2017 06:20:18 PM 880 Views
Because he would have to live with being deposed. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 07:05:35 PM 789 Views
As Stalin said, Нет человека, нет проблемы Tom - 13/12/2017 09:06:44 PM 844 Views
Like fire / Hellfire / This fire in my skin / This burning / Desire / Is turning me to sin *NM* Roland00 - 13/12/2017 09:21:16 PM 610 Views
How about we just send him to Avignon. The Shrike - 13/12/2017 11:31:25 PM 837 Views
If we send him in a soundproof box so all he can do is waive endlessly, sure! Tom - 14/12/2017 12:32:04 AM 853 Views
Schrodinger's Pope(s)? *NM* Roland00 - 15/12/2017 10:01:35 PM 495 Views
That would be fun. No one would know if he's alive or dead. *NM* Tom - 16/12/2017 03:50:13 AM 470 Views
Waive endlessly? Larry - 18/12/2017 03:06:39 AM 956 Views
It's the consequence of writing this in between contract revisions Tom - 18/12/2017 02:52:15 PM 1015 Views
I've had that happen before, minus the contract legalese Larry - 20/12/2017 03:43:50 AM 826 Views
music to burn heretics by... damookster - 13/12/2017 10:44:51 PM 960 Views
That is truly obscure Tom - 14/12/2017 12:39:43 AM 787 Views
It could be worse, my favorite 2 christmas albums are Roland00 - 14/12/2017 03:25:38 AM 804 Views
Sounds like your father was a wise man *NM* random thoughts - 14/12/2017 12:54:20 PM 514 Views
And he's still going nearly 50 years later... Simon - 16/12/2017 02:32:41 PM 1633 Views
That’s amazing. He’s still crazy. *NM* damookster - 16/12/2017 03:31:36 PM 505 Views
Agreed. *NM* Simon - 01/01/2018 01:59:14 PM 1059 Views
I'd like to thank everyone who replied to get the folder on fire. It adds a je ne sais quoi to it. *NM* Tom - 19/12/2017 05:10:02 PM 508 Views
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