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Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog Send a noteboard - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM

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I don't agree with the basic premise that the driver is fear. In my experience the entitled children of helicopter parents are not timid and fearful. Quite the opposite. Being raised to believe that your wants and desires are equal to or more important than those of anyone else doesn't make you fearful when you get the rude awakening that the rest of the world isn't going to treat you like your parents. Rather, it makes them angry and frustrated.

Personally I don't see any chance of easily resolving this. Children are no longer raised to respect traditional authority figures. They are taught that their viewpoint is equally important and valid. A generational change is needed and I don't see it happening.


God, yes. In the past you had to gain some knowledge and wisdom before people really considered your opinion. Now these kids seem to think (and have been raised to believe) that whatever they feel is as valid as anything else.

"I'll blow whomever I want, whenever I want, as long as I can still breathe and kneel."
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Why Are [SOME] Millennials Wary of Freedom? The Shrike - 16/10/2017 07:16:47 PM 2629 Views
Good article. Tom - 16/10/2017 08:05:48 PM 1102 Views
Indeed it is a pathology of fear. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 01:59:24 AM 994 Views
This makes me especially sad. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:47:51 PM 962 Views
never thought of it that way but excellent points *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 03:31:51 AM 648 Views
Definitely a possibility. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:46:42 PM 974 Views
I totally agree on there being fewer causes for fear. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:39:38 PM 1011 Views
Wait...you said *Rubio* was trying to push a positive, hopeful message? RUBIO? Tom - 17/10/2017 08:22:40 PM 951 Views
Maybe I shouldn't have omitted the disclaimer about his foreign policy. Legolas - 17/10/2017 08:33:37 PM 989 Views
Ok, fair enough Tom - 17/10/2017 09:15:14 PM 895 Views
Yes. I think the days of American armed intervention in Latin-America are well behind us. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:54:41 PM 946 Views
Regarding 'Make America Great Again'. Trump wasn't the first. He won't be the last. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:44:09 PM 1094 Views
Do we still have WSE points? I was quite the mogul in the waning days of WoTmania. *NM* Hieshyn - 16/10/2017 11:36:00 PM 624 Views
/me steals your WSE points. *NM* The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:48:08 PM 605 Views
Interesting damookster - 16/10/2017 11:46:32 PM 973 Views
Old dude, you make a good point, too. LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:01:29 AM 963 Views
Authority for Authority sake is just as Mores-less as No Respect for Authority Roland00 - 17/10/2017 06:07:15 AM 1032 Views
All generations experienced different cultures with different views *NM* random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:41:40 AM 547 Views
Agreed but there is a difference in severity between 1997 to 2017 vs 997 to 1017 *NM* Roland00 - 18/10/2017 05:52:14 AM 558 Views
but less than 1900 vs 1920 random thoughts - 18/10/2017 02:27:59 PM 919 Views
I still have hope The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:50:35 PM 1028 Views
I shall endeavor to combine Tom'n'Mookie's theories into one grand theory of... LiterateDog - 17/10/2017 02:15:48 AM 1037 Views
So we are back in the Age of Romanticism. Western Civilization has been there before. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 12:58:04 PM 1016 Views
This article agrees with your assessment The Shrike - 17/10/2017 02:30:03 PM 1096 Views
I appreciate your amendment. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 03:14:19 AM 1263 Views
no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside random thoughts - 17/10/2017 11:51:08 AM 979 Views
Re: no it is just hard to see the problem from the inside - uh, yes. nossy - 17/10/2017 01:44:26 PM 1047 Views
Most of us are very good at that random thoughts - 17/10/2017 08:24:50 PM 995 Views
Thanks. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:00:42 PM 899 Views
I disagree with relation to trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:17:45 PM 976 Views
A fair point. - Still, how far will you extend them? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:47:50 AM 938 Views
I don't know, but I'm not entirely sure it's a big deal either way. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 02:56:09 AM 885 Views
Nods Roland00 - 18/10/2017 03:17:17 AM 910 Views
And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:02:44 PM 1087 Views
Re: And I would posit that no work of literature should have any trigger warnings. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 08:48:01 PM 993 Views
How would you propose such warnings be worded? damookster - 18/10/2017 09:21:02 PM 975 Views
Do you know a lot of people who suffer from PTSD? Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 05:26:06 AM 1161 Views
Stop. Now. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:21:13 AM 892 Views
Avoidance isn't the purpose of those warnings, though. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 06:32:16 AM 925 Views
You would ruin the literature though. And discussions around the literature. The Shrike - 19/10/2017 01:21:20 PM 973 Views
That's reasonable. Ghavrel - 19/10/2017 11:58:56 PM 945 Views
Third party website? I fully support that. The Shrike - 20/10/2017 12:41:33 PM 1121 Views
Peace for our time! I agree with everything you wrote here. I'm always a sucker for more studies. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:03:31 AM 508 Views
Well argument settled becuase they already exist random thoughts - 23/10/2017 01:46:55 PM 861 Views
Yeah but they don't necessarily exist for works of literature usually read at the university level The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:28:35 PM 897 Views
That is true but it could fixed if there was more demand random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:00:21 PM 914 Views
I feel like I now need a trigger warning for trigger warnings. *NM* The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:48:47 PM 587 Views
Fuck you Tom Roland00 - 19/10/2017 07:06:47 AM 1061 Views
Oh come on... Belals Girl - 19/10/2017 05:12:46 PM 983 Views
HAHAHA! This from the person who can't even write a coherent post *NM* Tom - 20/10/2017 07:10:45 PM 542 Views
Oh please damookster - 19/10/2017 02:10:11 PM 1012 Views
Re: Oh please Ghavrel - 20/10/2017 12:01:02 AM 954 Views
What is your basis for arguing that "trigger warnings" are beneficial? Tom - 20/10/2017 07:19:42 PM 944 Views
Ha! Joke's on you! We don't do interrogatories in the criminal system. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:01:54 AM 943 Views
If you are not proposing altering any literature... Tom - 22/10/2017 04:28:53 PM 934 Views
I'm just gonna put this out there... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:24:55 PM 948 Views
Eh, I don't think that's accurate. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:04:58 AM 874 Views
An unnecessary tool.... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:14:06 PM 920 Views
Why does this reasoning apply to PTSD but not to other diseases? PTSD is a physical issue. Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 12:33:31 AM 884 Views
I would challenge that statment.... Jeordam - 24/10/2017 05:14:17 PM 1084 Views
Do you actually believe those examples are valid? *NM* random thoughts - 23/10/2017 07:32:59 PM 514 Views
Forget it, mook. He's just being a silly, stupid kid. He should know better. *NM* Tom - 19/10/2017 06:17:28 AM 623 Views
Agreed. Tom - 19/10/2017 06:16:33 AM 1040 Views
Interesting article. Legolas - 17/10/2017 07:41:34 PM 942 Views
Why are some HUMANS wary of freedom? Roland00 - 17/10/2017 05:31:04 AM 928 Views
Maybe the victimhood thing is another kind of honor Cannoli - 17/10/2017 01:02:43 PM 999 Views
Because it's easier to absolve oneself of power sometimes. For those people anyway. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:10:41 PM 934 Views
I apologize before hand Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:11:59 AM 935 Views
Only made it through page 2. Were there separate graphs for just N. American/West European nations? The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:04:05 PM 916 Views
I haven't read all the comments, so I apologize if I'm doubling up nossy - 17/10/2017 01:06:00 PM 1144 Views
Oh those echo chambers. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 01:16:40 PM 1056 Views
I hate blaming things nossy - 17/10/2017 02:04:44 PM 1111 Views
I'm not even sure "echo chamber" is the right phrase Tom - 17/10/2017 02:17:07 PM 1057 Views
I'm not sure that is the most common choice. nossy - 17/10/2017 05:21:52 PM 1145 Views
I get irritated too. But I still keep them in my news feed as well. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:49:45 PM 925 Views
Je ne regrette rien. My memes are both spicy and piquant. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/10/2017 11:20:55 PM 502 Views
I'm of Russian extraction. I like my food bland. Garlic, dill, salt, pepper. It's enough for me. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:52:27 AM 904 Views
You know, I'd not thought about that. Ghavrel - 18/10/2017 03:07:05 AM 968 Views
I find him intriguing as a Captain. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 01:09:07 PM 993 Views
So now we are at episode 6 The Shrike - 24/10/2017 12:31:06 PM 838 Views
6 was by far the best episode of the series. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/10/2017 08:07:55 PM 526 Views
Yes The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:50:15 PM 892 Views
But are your Memes brothy and fully of Umami? Roland00 - 18/10/2017 01:17:07 AM 858 Views
Umami is an irritating word *NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 04:59:21 PM 480 Views
Yes, ohdaddy is a much better word. *NM* LiterateDog - 18/10/2017 05:15:48 PM 586 Views
*NM* damookster - 18/10/2017 05:39:12 PM 517 Views
*NM* The Shrike - 18/10/2017 06:27:31 PM 508 Views
Snorts / Laughs so hard that I almost lost the drink I was enjoying. *NM* Roland00 - 19/10/2017 06:00:47 AM 551 Views
I do think some of this is specifically American and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere. Legolas - 17/10/2017 06:26:33 PM 963 Views
Agreed with all your points. The Shrike - 17/10/2017 08:53:23 PM 978 Views
The Netherlands, I'm not so sure about. Legolas - 17/10/2017 11:43:54 PM 932 Views
My apologies. I see Dutch and don't think of Belgium. The Shrike - 18/10/2017 12:56:26 AM 971 Views
That's alright. This is a confusing country in many ways. Legolas - 18/10/2017 08:58:15 PM 942 Views
America and to a lesser extent the rest of the Anglosphere puts a higher valuer on liberty *NM* random thoughts - 19/10/2017 01:53:50 PM 552 Views
Yes, in some ways it does. *NM* Legolas - 19/10/2017 05:38:41 PM 548 Views
Simple, true fredom is includes the freedom to fail HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:43:13 PM 986 Views
Re: Simple, true fredom is/includes the freedom to fail *NM* HyogaRott - 20/10/2017 05:45:51 PM 579 Views
Yes it is the freedom to fail Roland00 - 20/10/2017 06:36:02 PM 999 Views
This entire thread was so awesome.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 07:12:46 PM 990 Views
Jeo I think you in particular will appreciate this damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 937 Views
Interesting.....wisdom from on high.... Jeordam - 20/10/2017 09:58:36 PM 843 Views
damn it *NM* damookster - 20/10/2017 09:07:39 PM 479 Views
I think a lot of us are thinking about trigger warnings differently. Ghavrel - 21/10/2017 07:07:01 AM 946 Views
Maybe, maybe not... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:18:16 PM 870 Views
Glad you enjoyed it and that it provoked thought. The Shrike - 23/10/2017 02:32:57 PM 914 Views
I see this as... Jeordam - 23/10/2017 05:23:54 PM 892 Views
I kind of break them down into two types Vodalus - 22/10/2017 03:25:04 AM 1016 Views
I wonder how much the fall of communism has to do with this? random thoughts - 24/10/2017 10:20:16 PM 921 Views
Definitely more than a bit. The Shrike - 25/10/2017 12:51:55 PM 860 Views
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