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The purges will continue until morale improves aerocontrols Send a noteboard - 22/08/2017 04:10:36 PM

So I guess Joss Whedon, who, according to his ex-wife, has been a philanderer who has a propensity to take sexual advantage of young women who work for him, is no longer welcome in feminist circles. (Should have gotten elected President, Joss!)

I'm not and never will be a gatekeeper of who is or is not a feminist, and certainly would not claim to be one myself. But I'll just leave this here, because whatever Joss himself is, it seems that perhaps he once knew how to write feminist characters

Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion.
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The purges will continue until morale improves aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 04:10:36 PM 1182 Views
I love how they cite Vasquez from Aliens as a strong female character. Cannoli - 22/08/2017 04:46:53 PM 592 Views
Not where I pictured that going... aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 07:19:46 PM 451 Views
Uh, yeah, I don't see the link. Just because he cheated on his wife doesn't make him not feminist. Legolas - 22/08/2017 06:44:28 PM 486 Views
You are not the gatekeeper, either aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 07:25:31 PM 471 Views
I strongly protest against the notion that there IS a gatekeeper. Legolas - 22/08/2017 07:39:41 PM 447 Views
I am the gatekeeper. Both of you are out. Aviendha - 22/08/2017 07:52:22 PM 518 Views
You can't kick me out! aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 07:54:30 PM 459 Views
None shall pass. Aviendha - 22/08/2017 07:57:43 PM 456 Views
yeah, yeah, yeah... aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 08:06:40 PM 458 Views
We're out of my field aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 07:53:01 PM 477 Views
Of course the real problem with the strong female action figure is the lack of real world models random thoughts - 22/08/2017 07:30:55 PM 465 Views
But is it? aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 07:45:30 PM 438 Views
An interesting thing about sci-fi is that it can plausibly eliminate sexual disparity in strength. Ghavrel - 22/08/2017 08:19:52 PM 482 Views
I take it by 'Africans', you mean 'black people'? Legolas - 22/08/2017 09:19:01 PM 473 Views
I meant Africans. The deficiency here is in my knowledge of sports records. Ghavrel - 23/08/2017 12:40:23 AM 435 Views
In longer distance races, yes. Not so much in sprinting. Legolas - 23/08/2017 07:03:14 AM 447 Views
When you are talking aliens then gender really isn't an issue random thoughts - 22/08/2017 09:42:07 PM 433 Views
Of the two female Avengers only one has super powers. random thoughts - 22/08/2017 09:46:49 PM 460 Views
*shrug* aerocontrols - 22/08/2017 09:56:20 PM 475 Views
And it bothers me that he can get nocked around like that and live random thoughts - 23/08/2017 12:29:26 AM 518 Views
No, not yours *NM* aerocontrols - 23/08/2017 12:34:13 AM 276 Views
I doubt anyone had their life changed because they were inspired but whatever his name is *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2017 02:33:48 AM 254 Views
So that makes me wonder....What is the definition of a Feminist? Jeordam - 22/08/2017 11:20:49 PM 481 Views
A person who supports feminism. Aviendha - 22/08/2017 11:55:56 PM 543 Views
Motte and Bailey aerocontrols - 24/08/2017 10:22:03 PM 542 Views
? Aviendha - 24/08/2017 10:34:34 PM 567 Views
The argument is aerocontrols - 24/08/2017 11:03:19 PM 460 Views
I think people have different ideas of how to reach equality, some of which are stupid Aviendha - 24/08/2017 11:28:31 PM 504 Views
Well, ok aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 12:19:24 AM 462 Views
Men! Aviendha - 25/08/2017 09:28:21 AM 534 Views
I really like this analogy, but I think it's off base here. Ghavrel - 24/08/2017 10:36:31 PM 469 Views
Re: I really like this analogy, but I think it's off base here. aerocontrols - 24/08/2017 11:01:15 PM 528 Views
Re: I really like this analogy, but I think it's off base here. Ghavrel - 24/08/2017 11:34:24 PM 478 Views
Re: I really like this analogy, but I think it's off base here. aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 12:28:58 AM 506 Views
Re: I really like this analogy, but I think it's off base here. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 03:33:53 AM 450 Views
Sometimes 'real' is the right word, though aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 03:01:16 PM 488 Views
Well, sure. There's no dispute over their beliefs there, though. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 04:03:47 PM 502 Views
all the social justice people hide from one reality random thoughts - 25/08/2017 03:40:51 PM 464 Views
That's the equity/equality distinction. Ghavrel - 25/08/2017 04:01:10 PM 438 Views
See, but it's the same thing.... Jeordam - 25/08/2017 05:22:50 PM 558 Views
Are you ok giving a rich black person advantages over a poor white one? random thoughts - 25/08/2017 05:41:58 PM 486 Views
It's not just a black/white issue aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 05:45:17 PM 538 Views
Really? Jeordam - 25/08/2017 06:16:14 PM 481 Views
Affirmative action is illegal for public universities in California aerocontrols - 25/08/2017 06:44:38 PM 527 Views
That is an affect of their score not of racial bias random thoughts - 28/08/2017 02:32:02 PM 482 Views
That's really not what "modern liberal social justice" thinks. Ghavrel - 28/08/2017 06:41:32 AM 396 Views
It may not be what they intend but they ignore the real world consequences random thoughts - 28/08/2017 02:25:23 PM 537 Views
Re: That's really not what "modern liberal social justice" thinks. aerocontrols - 28/08/2017 03:02:42 PM 525 Views
Only very briefly as I head off to work. Ghavrel - 28/08/2017 04:07:42 PM 388 Views
Well, I can see you're busy aerocontrols - 28/08/2017 04:36:55 PM 496 Views
All else being equal, yes. But that's sometimes difficult to visualize. Ghavrel - 29/08/2017 03:56:56 AM 531 Views
How about a kid who's family endows one or more chairs? Or built the new gym? *NM* damookster - 29/08/2017 05:45:29 AM 253 Views
That's not "all else being equal." *NM* Ghavrel - 29/08/2017 05:35:13 PM 323 Views
I prefer Mott The Hoople *NM* damookster - 24/08/2017 10:42:00 PM 244 Views
Oh look; a bunch of dudes discussing feminism! *NM* Aviendha - 22/08/2017 11:49:25 PM 285 Views
Just let us know if you need any mansplaining. aerocontrols - 23/08/2017 12:08:55 AM 423 Views
Someone needs to bring some rationality and logic to the topic. *NM* Cannoli - 23/08/2017 01:28:16 AM 247 Views
And, I thought it was "if you believe men & women are equal, you're a feminist!" *NM* Cannoli - 23/08/2017 01:29:24 AM 244 Views
I don't know if you've noticed, but... Legolas - 23/08/2017 07:05:10 AM 445 Views
Well Aviendha - 23/08/2017 09:02:28 AM 522 Views
I tried nossy - 23/08/2017 11:41:00 AM 515 Views
It's odd Aviendha - 23/08/2017 12:08:34 PM 523 Views
Lol, I wondered how you fit in over here. nossy - 23/08/2017 12:26:05 PM 519 Views
Urban Minnesota is a bit of a haven, too. Plus we have agreeable weather with four seasons! Hieshyn - 23/08/2017 09:29:33 PM 498 Views
Pft, I've seen your mosquitos! *NM* nossy - 24/08/2017 12:57:03 AM 265 Views
This year has been very mild. I think they're going the Way of the Bee. *NM* Hieshyn - 24/08/2017 11:26:10 PM 309 Views
Uhoh nossy - 24/08/2017 11:47:16 PM 503 Views
Nope. Those bastards dont deserve your pity. They are parasites. Hieshyn - 25/08/2017 01:44:45 AM 483 Views
ANYWAY Aviendha - 25/08/2017 09:30:31 AM 458 Views
Yes the virtues of having both extremes of weather random thoughts - 25/08/2017 02:31:38 AM 477 Views
Hey! nossy - 25/08/2017 10:41:16 AM 432 Views
Special rights don't lead to equality. *NM* random thoughts - 23/08/2017 12:14:12 PM 256 Views
Is it even considered possible for cisgender men to be feminist? damookster - 23/08/2017 12:48:28 AM 428 Views
In this particular case, the feminists would appear to have a legitimate point Cannoli - 23/08/2017 02:54:46 AM 548 Views
So in the end, Joss Wheldon is nothing more than the stereotypical Hollywood producer damookster - 23/08/2017 03:48:40 AM 525 Views
So he is a lot like Bil Clinton only with no Hillary to take the women out for him? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2017 01:16:11 PM 257 Views
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