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As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom Send a noteboard - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM

While we think of it as recreational, I assume it's a big deal to guys who can't get it up but want to have kids. It corrects a dysfunction.

Transsexual surgery, on the other hand, mutilates someone's body so that they can feel better about themselves.

While you can argue that taxpayer dollars shouldn't go to Viagra, there's a reasonable argument for it. There's no reasonable argument for the military to take on the added costs of sex surgeries. Otherwise, as I said, why stop there? Boob jobs, butt jobs, collagen implants, facelifts...you name it, taxpayers should pay for it (by your logic).

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

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Thoughts on the internet outrage over Trump's transgenders in the military announcement damookster - 26/07/2017 05:42:34 PM 872 Views
Maybe because.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:08:16 PM 428 Views
I get that damookster - 26/07/2017 06:12:35 PM 428 Views
I don't think that your reasoning is flawed.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 06:31:06 PM 484 Views
bottom line damookster - 26/07/2017 06:40:36 PM 448 Views
*shrug* Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:05:17 PM 399 Views
I dare say a lot of the rhetoric is seriously over the top... Legolas - 26/07/2017 06:13:59 PM 434 Views
like I replied to Jeo, I don't see this as a betrayal of the LGBT cause damookster - 26/07/2017 06:19:01 PM 468 Views
LGB is not the same as T. We need to stop treating it all the same. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:58:05 PM 433 Views
No the least of which... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 07:06:21 PM 478 Views
Physical mutilation is a more appropriate word. Tom - 26/07/2017 07:07:33 PM 434 Views
You're correct.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:28:20 PM 413 Views
Not always, keep that in mind. Legolas - 26/07/2017 07:35:34 PM 442 Views
I would still consider that.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:02:36 PM 457 Views
John McCain is the Left's favorite RINO Tom - 26/07/2017 08:09:41 PM 474 Views
He's not a RINO. Just built his career on being independent-minded. Legolas - 26/07/2017 09:49:32 PM 477 Views
I really don't see the independence. Where is it? Tom - 27/07/2017 01:33:27 AM 430 Views
So which is it, is he a RINO or a faithful Republican foot soldier? Legolas - 27/07/2017 08:08:04 PM 473 Views
RINOs are a pack. Tom - 28/07/2017 12:46:44 AM 435 Views
Agreed with McCain The Shrike - 27/07/2017 03:35:06 PM 438 Views
It makes eminent sense why trannies shouldn't be allowed. Tom - 26/07/2017 06:57:00 PM 448 Views
I tried to keep my points to the logic of excluding an 18 yr old trans person damookster - 26/07/2017 07:16:37 PM 485 Views
I don't have any desire to stop people from doing it Tom - 26/07/2017 07:32:08 PM 420 Views
I agree damookster - 26/07/2017 07:59:18 PM 506 Views
Absolutely agree on all counts *NM* Cannoli - 27/07/2017 06:40:03 AM 243 Views
You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die for your country. You just need to shoot straight. Joel - 27/07/2017 10:14:11 PM 426 Views
You're an idiot. *NM* Tom - 28/07/2017 12:47:21 AM 248 Views
You also need to pass some sort of physical standards Cannoli - 28/07/2017 03:52:14 AM 464 Views
So I was reading.... Jeordam - 26/07/2017 09:07:11 PM 452 Views
This is part of my point Tom - 26/07/2017 09:47:39 PM 447 Views
The rate goes down significantly after transition. Ghavrel - 26/07/2017 11:24:50 PM 433 Views
Bullshit. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:40:05 AM 550 Views
I also like that study because it uses correct terminology: transsexual, sex-reassigned. Tom - 27/07/2017 01:42:19 AM 451 Views
Gender has had a non-grammatical meaning since the 1950s, and you know it. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:05:09 AM 431 Views
And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Tom - 27/07/2017 04:57:19 AM 427 Views
Re: And people misuse the subjunctive all the time. Your point? Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:13:57 PM 440 Views
That's not necessarily a biological difference Tom - 27/07/2017 05:03:30 PM 475 Views
or liposuction or laser fat removal too. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 05:06:56 PM 264 Views
Facelifts, tummy tucks, collagen implants, nose jobs... *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 05:09:01 PM 242 Views
Not bullshit. The rate decreases. It is still elevated relative to the general population. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 03:00:15 AM 450 Views
"transition is the cure" Tom - 27/07/2017 04:50:11 AM 442 Views
Sloppy wording on my part. Transition is currently the most effective known cure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:18:41 PM 445 Views
Yes, but that just argues against transsexuals in the military either way Tom - 27/07/2017 05:04:39 PM 402 Views
Yes, and I don't feel particularly strongly about the current fiasco for that reason. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:51:29 PM 428 Views
Yes, I am waiting for one of our veterans to weigh in with their thoughts. *NM* damookster - 27/07/2017 06:13:19 PM 234 Views
For what it's worth.... Jeordam - 28/07/2017 10:36:22 PM 470 Views
I have a friend who was an officer in the army who feels the same way. Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:37:48 AM 428 Views
which should then close the debate on the original question damookster - 27/07/2017 05:07:34 AM 458 Views
Exactly. *NM* Tom - 27/07/2017 01:26:48 PM 255 Views
Well, to the extent that it covers people with dysphoria, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 02:26:26 PM 410 Views
As I said above, Viagra treats a dysfunction Tom - 27/07/2017 05:08:19 PM 443 Views
also, to a point you made earlier damookster - 27/07/2017 05:39:32 PM 398 Views
Well, that's an argument for not putting them in roles where they can be captured, sure. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:53:02 PM 409 Views
The argument is that transition corrects the dysfunction of gender dysphoria. Ghavrel - 27/07/2017 05:49:24 PM 391 Views
So let me understand your position correctly via asking a few questions Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:50 AM 462 Views
Too long Tom - 28/07/2017 01:54:11 PM 440 Views
The main reason for the post was the standard you created Roland00 - 28/07/2017 05:00:27 PM 410 Views
Reductio ad absurdum, Roland? damookster - 28/07/2017 05:29:23 PM 422 Views
I know Tom and Cannoli don't care, but on the off chance that you do... Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 12:39:16 AM 432 Views
I didn't realize that damookster - 29/07/2017 01:10:30 AM 384 Views
Also trivia Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:22:37 AM 396 Views
No worries. I'm not offended. I just thought you might want to know. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/07/2017 02:32:01 AM 222 Views
Thanks damookster - 29/07/2017 03:25:08 AM 390 Views
I don't? *NM* Cannoli - 29/07/2017 08:23:14 AM 251 Views
Yeah, I really don't care. Though I use the term for a different reason. Tom - 29/07/2017 07:12:03 PM 437 Views
So right now let me share the joke that is happening in my mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:28:22 PM 373 Views
Girlfriend Mookie, you are projecting onto me. Roland00 - 29/07/2017 01:17:47 AM 450 Views
I absolutely respect you, Roland/Matt damookster - 29/07/2017 01:40:28 AM 371 Views
We are cool Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:36:00 AM 432 Views
Blah blah blah and now I am showing off like an asshole Roland00 - 29/07/2017 02:52:48 AM 401 Views
you're a nice guy, Roland00 damookster - 29/07/2017 03:22:15 AM 419 Views
OMG mookie gave me the Nice Guy speech / Good Guy speech Roland00 - 29/07/2017 07:41:23 PM 367 Views
I've never seen Newsroom damookster - 29/07/2017 08:00:38 PM 401 Views
Teases I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:13:30 PM 401 Views
Nah, I'm not that subtle. damookster - 29/07/2017 11:01:39 PM 366 Views
Edit: Double Posted due to bad wifi *NM* Roland00 - 28/07/2017 04:01:51 AM 220 Views
Serving its end: As long as everyone argues over this, no one talks about Trumpcare nor Russiagate Joel - 27/07/2017 10:05:00 PM 390 Views
What's horrible is the portmandu with -gate......Can we just let that one go yet? *NM* Jeordam - 27/07/2017 10:51:20 PM 207 Views
Joel, seriously damookster - 29/07/2017 08:33:14 PM 432 Views
No the real boogeymen are the ones we do not see with our eyes, but are still lurking in the shadows Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:16:34 PM 366 Views
And Rejoice Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:17:42 PM 402 Views
You are mixing up your metaphors, it is sleight of hand not sleight of mind Roland00 - 29/07/2017 09:20:17 PM 395 Views
Everybody Is Missing The Mark Here MrFarstrider - 29/07/2017 10:25:04 PM 499 Views
Nice comments. Thanks for that explanation. *NM* damookster - 29/07/2017 11:15:29 PM 240 Views
Also, For the Record MrFarstrider - 30/07/2017 08:02:58 AM 457 Views
Incite or Insight *NM* Roland00 - 01/08/2017 06:30:28 AM 225 Views
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