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Re: I got placed into Slytherin at Pottermore back in the day. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 26/06/2017 05:43:34 PM

View original postPersonally I enjoyed Draco's redemption story throughout the entire series. And then there was Snape as well. Complicated people. Much more interesting than a lot of Gryffindors. I mean if you want terrible Gryffindors we have Percy Weasley. Turned his back on his family.

There are plenty of terrible people in every house. It's simply that Slytherin has a vastly disproportionate amount with practically no good people to balance it out. And sure, Snape was interesting (Malfoy didn't get enough attention to be), but that doesn't make him good. Pick up a good biography of your vicious dictator of choice and you'll see interesting in spades.

View original postThe problem with the test and the books with regards to houses is that even though I think I should have been Ravenclaw, Rowling never fleshed out Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw properly. So we don't have enough of them to see what they are truly like. I think I did the calculations once that there are roughly 40 people per class at Hogwarts - so about 280 people in the school - and Rowling just never felt the need to tell a story other than through the eyes of Gryffindor and their antagonists Slytherin. She would have done better to make a more nuanced story that showed evil/good people from all the houses rather than the clear only good/only evil duality she had going on. But this did begin as a story for children before progressing into what it became in later books.

Ravenclaw has Luna and is a bit fleshed out. Hufflepuff exists largely to be the butt of jokes. I agree that some more depth would have been preferable, but Rowling did a remarkable job of developing the books' maturity as the series progresses.

View original postDo I think any one of the houses is the best? Clearly not. And that kind of chauvinistic attitude is really so old school. Reactionary even. Looks like you should be happy you're in Gryffindor. But you sound like you could have placed in Slytherin too.

The text supports it. Slytherin is full of terrible people.

View original postBTW - you forgot Harry's son who placed into Slytherin - Albus Severus Potter.

I refuse to acknowledge the drivel that is the epilogue or the even worse drivel that is CURSED CHILD. Dreadful writing.

View original postP.S. What do you have against using the word 'Philosopher' with its medieval alchemist connotations? A sorcerer is not a person of intellect.

Nothing, but the title in the U.S. is not Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. You should ask Scholastic, not me.

View original postP. P. S. - you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to try to justify your so-called Gryffindorness. You sure you didn't get placed into Hufflepuff? You can always do the test again if you need to feel better.

Moralizing, judgemental attitudes come naturally to me. I'm a Gryffindor through and through. But Hufflepuff is a lovely house and had the protagonist of the only good Harry Potter film, so I'm not insulted by the insinuation.

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What the hell is with people's fondness for Slytherin? Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 09:48:07 AM 1029 Views

Contrarian & deconstructionist fashions Cannoli - 26/06/2017 11:13:55 AM 680 Views

I think it's more because people are rejecting facile black-and-white depictions of the world. Tom - 26/06/2017 02:27:21 PM 640 Views

I can't help but think a children's series is the wrong venue for this sort of protest. Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 05:52:52 PM 633 Views

I can't help but think a children's series is the perfect venue for such a protest. Tom - 26/06/2017 07:45:47 PM 534 Views

Claps *NM* Roland00 - 27/06/2017 09:38:46 AM 386 Views

Maybe there's also room for different takes on morality in children's books?

Legolas - 26/06/2017 07:58:21 PM 644 Views

I mean, I tend towards black and white morality as a general principle, so...

Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 12:46:53 AM 528 Views

How is Gondor theocratic? I think I missed something *NM* Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 05:45:55 PM 387 Views

Appendix J to the Return of the King is essentially just religious laws of Gondor. Tom - 26/06/2017 07:49:08 PM 572 Views

I remember the first time reading those appendices at the end of The Return of the King The Shrike - 26/06/2017 08:09:18 PM 622 Views

I recall that one. Very bittersweet. As is most of the end of the trilogy. *NM* Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 12:43:16 AM 410 Views

I didn't say it was, I said that people like coming up with nonsense like that *NM* Cannoli - 27/06/2017 11:05:58 AM 420 Views

I got placed into Slytherin at Pottermore back in the day. The Shrike - 26/06/2017 01:30:13 PM 668 Views

Re: I got placed into Slytherin at Pottermore back in the day. Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 05:43:34 PM 661 Views

Your replies do show a large streak of Slytherinesque views. I think you were mishoused. The Shrike - 26/06/2017 06:06:09 PM 681 Views

Nah. I have vague glimmerings of a conscience. Disqualifying trait for House Sociopath.

*NM* Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 06:08:44 PM 370 Views

Ah I see. You're in denial. In the closet as it were. The Shrike - 26/06/2017 06:27:37 PM 488 Views

Yet you're studying for the bar so you can join Profession Sociopath. Tom - 26/06/2017 07:56:47 PM 615 Views

Ugh. Don't remind me. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 07:58:03 PM 354 Views

Meanwhile future "sociopath" The Shrike - 28/06/2017 12:20:27 PM 531 Views

I'm going into public defense. Don't be too proud of yourself.

Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 08:31:04 PM 632 Views

Just a self-righteous and masochistic form of sociopath. *NM* Tom - 28/06/2017 10:05:18 PM 444 Views

But intensely charitable in its sociopathy! Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 10:54:14 PM 506 Views

How many years, do you guess, as a PDA before he bails for the bucks? damookster - 28/06/2017 11:13:43 PM 544 Views

I went to law school specifically to be a public defender. Bailing is unlikely. Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 12:19:42 AM 608 Views

You are an American, bail---ing is part of our judicial system Roland00 - 29/06/2017 02:45:05 AM 617 Views

I thought about making that pun but demurred.

Ghavrel - 29/06/2017 03:22:46 AM 528 Views

Well we slytherin folk we have our own role models in regards to humor Roland00 - 29/06/2017 04:50:58 AM 535 Views

Well we slytherin folk we have our own role models in regards to humor Roland00 - 29/06/2017 04:50:58 AM 645 Views

The Practice aired what 8 seasons, 7 with Bobby, only to be replaced with the much better show Roland00 - 29/06/2017 02:42:07 AM 511 Views

I re-watched the eight HP movies a while back. Legolas - 26/06/2017 07:38:39 PM 678 Views

You think "Eyebrows" Watson improved the films? Yeesh.

*NM* Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 01:59:55 AM 558 Views

What do her eyebrows have to do with anything? And yes, I do. *NM* Legolas - 27/06/2017 06:13:20 AM 422 Views

They comprise about 98% of what passes for her acting ability. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 06:14:31 AM 521 Views

Nonsense. She does a great job - at least in those movies, haven't seen her in anything else. Legolas - 27/06/2017 06:20:26 AM 568 Views

Hasn't BEEN in anything else. That anyone else saw, anyway. Cannoli - 27/06/2017 03:18:48 PM 658 Views

Pretty sure that a lot of people saw her in Beauty & The Beast The Shrike - 27/06/2017 03:26:29 PM 595 Views

In which, incidentally, she could neither act nor sing. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 03:13:32 AM 422 Views

That's not the point. The point is she was seen in a film that garnered over $1billion. *NM* The Shrike - 28/06/2017 12:18:14 PM 399 Views

The point is she hasn't been in anything that would support a positive assessment of her ability Cannoli - 01/07/2017 02:56:26 PM 553 Views

Voldemort came from Slytherin. He was awesome. Tom - 26/06/2017 01:50:46 PM 604 Views

*NM* Ghavrel - 26/06/2017 05:44:33 PM 393 Views

One of the rather few things in the series that I'd say Rowling got wrong... Legolas - 26/06/2017 07:32:43 PM 592 Views

I agree with most of this. Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 01:03:19 AM 677 Views

As a fellow "Never Slytherin"... Clover - 27/06/2017 12:22:17 AM 859 Views

Re: As a fellow "Never Slytherin"... Ghavrel - 27/06/2017 01:15:15 AM 597 Views

Perhaps the houses Roland00 - 28/06/2017 01:44:35 AM 588 Views

Anti-hype? nossy - 27/06/2017 10:35:22 AM 598 Views

Ok, so, everybody beat me to it nossy - 27/06/2017 10:45:33 AM 578 Views

Nossy you are our hufflepuff Roland00 - 28/06/2017 01:47:40 AM 564 Views

Re: Anti-hype? Cannoli - 27/06/2017 03:24:12 PM 607 Views

Re: Anti-hype? Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 03:21:59 AM 451 Views

Re: Anti-hype? nossy - 28/06/2017 01:14:09 PM 531 Views

Stop it, you are meant to enjoy the books not analyze them to death. Roland00 - 28/06/2017 01:40:41 AM 515 Views

I don't watch anime. RWBY is safe. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 03:12:56 AM 299 Views

Hun, that product is made in America it is not Anime

Roland00 - 28/06/2017 03:17:45 AM 532 Views

That's anime. I don't watch anime or its derivatives. But if you want me to criticize it... *NM* Ghavrel - 28/06/2017 03:23:01 AM 347 Views

Perhaps you should watch it Roland00 - 28/06/2017 03:29:59 AM 466 Views

Enjoyment =/= thinking about, or having feelings toward, something. Good to know Cannoli - 01/07/2017 02:57:42 PM 502 Views

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<quote id="295992">Personally I enjoyed Draco's redemption story throughout the entire series. And then there was Snape as well. Complicated people. Much more interesting than a lot of Gryffindors. I mean if you want terrible Gryffindors we have Percy Weasley. Turned his back on his family. </quote>
There are plenty of terrible people in every house. It's simply that Slytherin has a vastly disproportionate amount with practically no good people to balance it out. And sure, Snape was interesting (Malfoy didn't get enough attention to be), but that doesn't make him <i>good</i>. Pick up a good biography of your vicious dictator of choice and you'll see interesting in spades.

<quote id="295992">The problem with the test and the books with regards to houses is that even though I think I should have been Ravenclaw, Rowling never fleshed out Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw properly. So we don't have enough of them to see what they are truly like. I think I did the calculations once that there are roughly 40 people per class at Hogwarts - so about 280 people in the school - and Rowling just never felt the need to tell a story other than through the eyes of Gryffindor and their antagonists Slytherin. She would have done better to make a more nuanced story that showed evil/good people from all the houses rather than the clear only good/only evil duality she had going on. But this did begin as a story for children before progressing into what it became in later books.</quote>
Ravenclaw has Luna and is a bit fleshed out. Hufflepuff exists largely to be the butt of jokes. I agree that some more depth would have been preferable, but Rowling did a remarkable job of developing the books' maturity as the series progresses.

<quote id="295992">Do I think any one of the houses is the best? Clearly not. And that kind of chauvinistic attitude is really so old school. Reactionary even.  Looks like you should be happy you're in Gryffindor. But you sound like you could have placed in Slytherin too.</quote>
The text supports it. Slytherin is full of terrible people.

<quote id="295992">BTW - you forgot Harry's son who placed into Slytherin - Albus Severus Potter. </quote>
I refuse to acknowledge the drivel that is the epilogue or the even worse drivel that is CURSED CHILD. Dreadful writing.

<quote id="295992">P.S. What do you have against using the word 'Philosopher' with its medieval alchemist connotations? A sorcerer is not a person of intellect.</quote>
Nothing, but the title in the U.S. is not Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. You should ask Scholastic, not me.

<quote id="295992">P. P. S. - you seem to have gone to a lot of trouble to try to justify your so-called Gryffindorness. You sure you didn't get placed into Hufflepuff? You can always do the test again if you need to feel better. </quote>
Moralizing, judgemental attitudes come naturally to me. I'm a Gryffindor through and through. But Hufflepuff is a lovely house and had the protagonist of the only good Harry Potter film, so I'm not insulted by the insinuation.
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