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It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM

It's not gaslighting someone when you disagree with them. It's not gaslighting when your disagreement makes them uncomfortable or makes them question their reality. It's not even gaslighting when you tell someone they're delusional. Gaslighting requires that

1) you know they aren't aren't crazy, and
2) you try to convince them that they are.

As opposed to idiotic articles like the one I've linked, which wrongly assert that "Gaslighting also occurs every time a white person tells a person of color not to bring race into a discussion or when they accuse PoCs of playing the race card."

No. It doesn't. That's not gaslighting. It might be any number of things, and those things might be bad, but it's not gaslighting.

"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel

*MySmiley*

This is what i'm talking about.
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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed LiterateDog - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 1714 Views
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The aim was not to scare anyone. It was to show that violence is not controllable. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:12 AM 873 Views
I thought everyone already understood that? I was wrong? Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:26:04 PM 998 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified damookster - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 981 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* Jeordam - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 551 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 948 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 865 Views
Not an accident aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 844 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 854 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him Tom - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 844 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 932 Views
I would have actually respected her more... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 809 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* random thoughts - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 561 Views
I think the gunman has more in common with people who beat their wives than Bernie Sanders Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:08:54 PM 822 Views
Do we know conclusively Bernie doesn't beat his wife? *NM* Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:54 AM 539 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1086 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides damookster - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 922 Views
Sure, I will admit that. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 872 Views
No Derek Hunter is not all knowing, he repeats the same schtick and eventually it may come true. *NM* Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:59:14 PM 533 Views
There you go again. Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 918 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... Jeordam - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 798 Views
You know what I did? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 921 Views
Good Idea.... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 833 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 889 Views
What Can I say, Derek Hunter is a publicity whore, and has made his living making culture wars Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:58:07 PM 813 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right AgentApple - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 845 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 948 Views
That's not correct. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 943 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. nossy - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 906 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 485 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD nossy - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 845 Views
Agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 925 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 934 Views
funny you would say that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 917 Views
I so miss Camilla. Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 857 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders damookster - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 948 Views
God I miss Wads Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 948 Views
D'oh! *NM* damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 525 Views
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I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 453 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 727 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate Anonymous2000 - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 839 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 953 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. The Shrike - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 861 Views
Yeah, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 938 Views
yes, that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 861 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 830 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 847 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 813 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 772 Views
Well, yeah nossy - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 865 Views
It's only nuts if you see the left as a single group that can be led and controlled. Legolas - 15/06/2017 09:04:05 PM 804 Views
It's nuts because the left sees everyone as a single group that can be led and controlled. aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 01:05:41 AM 694 Views
I think I understand that, actually. A libertarian friend pointed it out to me. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:30:09 AM 789 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 933 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 730 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? Tom - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1025 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 857 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? Tom - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 789 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 750 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one Tom - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 889 Views
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Poor Weimar. The Shrike - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 816 Views
Ha! aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 789 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 900 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 917 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel Roland00 - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 867 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" Tom - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 731 Views
I unironically use some of those Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 956 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* Tom - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 483 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 791 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 934 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle Roland00 - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 858 Views
I hope this doesn't offend, but you sound like you're talking to a child. nossy - 17/06/2017 09:55:40 AM 785 Views
I fear for any child on the receiving end of whatever that was. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2017 11:02:42 AM 485 Views
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Point of Contact aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1018 Views
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I'll just bet you do. *NM* LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 483 Views
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under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* damookster - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 489 Views
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President Mike Pence aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 857 Views
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RAWR, bows down to the sexiness Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 810 Views
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