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Poor Weimar. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM

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I had an interchange the day before Scalise was shot with some west coast liberal who insisted that the reason Hitler came to power was because of an obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Republic. She was completely unaware of the existence of paramilitary groups in post-WWI Germany. She was arguing that progressives need to start using violence against fringe elements of the right in the US. The irony was incredible.


You said you recognize it because you've read so much European history (and obviously you have), but it doesn't take half of the education you've had to recognize what's going on here. This is really, really simple stuff. The Freikorps are not obscure.


Another great example of how fragile Democracy can be. The funny thing about Weimar is will all its handicaps it was finally succeeding before the Great Depression began and poor economic policies screwed it and the world over.

Happily the US institution is much more robust. But it still amazes me that people think violence is ok in our politics. Unless you're rebelling from England it is pretty much not ok to solve your problems using violence.

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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 2072 Views
Totally agreed with this article... - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 1373 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 1329 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 1281 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 1336 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 719 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 1318 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 1231 Views
Not an accident - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 1225 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 1213 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 1205 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 1295 Views
I would have actually respected her more... - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 1167 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 717 Views
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Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 1264 Views
Sure, I will admit that. - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 1243 Views
There you go again. - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 1291 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 1172 Views
You know what I did? - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 1298 Views
Good Idea.... - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 1201 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 1278 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 1199 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 1304 Views
That's not correct. - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 1345 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 1262 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 644 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 1202 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 1105 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 1298 Views
funny you would say that - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 1287 Views
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Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 1305 Views
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D'oh! *NM* - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 677 Views
*NM* - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 734 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 609 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 1089 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 1207 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 1324 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 1238 Views
Yeah, but... - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 1307 Views
yes, that - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 1225 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 1167 Views
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Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 1180 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 1129 Views
Well, yeah - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 1238 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 1314 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 1084 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1412 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 1219 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 1171 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 1119 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 1250 Views
Poor Weimar. - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 1207 Views
Ha! - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 1157 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 1223 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 1278 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 1251 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 1086 Views
I unironically use some of those - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 1331 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 632 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 1169 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 1306 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 1207 Views
You're overthinking this. - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 1276 Views
What are you even talking about? - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 1323 Views
POC - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 1187 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 1171 Views
Point of Contact - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1387 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 1252 Views
I have some good needs - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 1149 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 639 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 1225 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 1250 Views
My opinion on this - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1428 Views
No - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 1154 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 637 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 682 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 639 Views
POP - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 1292 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 1228 Views
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President Mike Pence - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 1230 Views
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Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 1270 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 1169 Views

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