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It's because they have begun to eat themselves. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM

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You basically beat me to it.

I'm one of the most left-leaning and progressive-esque people on this site these days. I'm pretty much the typical SJW bogeyman. But more and more I feel like the fringe of the progressive movement (it's largely not the left, incidentally; these people don't give a shit about labor) is becoming a caricature of itself.

I spent the last two weeks arguing with multiple people on Facebook that using violence as a political tool could only end badly for the progressive cause.

For all of the screeching about "not needing allies" that these people do, they're going to find themselves really lonely at the barricades if they keep this up.


The Soviet Communists did this to themselves too in the 20s and 30s once they had defeated the "Whites". All in the name of ideological purity. It will only get worse. Denouncements. Political violence. Ostracism. Death. It will be interesting to see how this progresses. The stuff I read about college campuses is chilling. The lack of respect for free speech is especially quite troubling. Having read so much European history, I know where this can go and I do wonder if the extreme ideological militants have read their history too. Or even care if they have.

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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed LiterateDog - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 1767 Views
I will say this regarding the Democrats lack of introspection after the November loss. The Shrike - 14/06/2017 02:58:17 PM 1013 Views
Totally agreed with this article... Simon - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 1059 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. Tom - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 999 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 958 Views
The aim was not to scare anyone. It was to show that violence is not controllable. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:12 AM 925 Views
I thought everyone already understood that? I was wrong? Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:26:04 PM 1062 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified damookster - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 1030 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* Jeordam - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 578 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 999 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 917 Views
Not an accident aerocontrols - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 899 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 900 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him Tom - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 886 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 979 Views
I would have actually respected her more... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 860 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* random thoughts - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 580 Views
I think the gunman has more in common with people who beat their wives than Bernie Sanders Roland00 - 14/06/2017 09:08:54 PM 876 Views
Do we know conclusively Bernie doesn't beat his wife? *NM* Tom - 15/06/2017 04:24:54 AM 550 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1142 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides damookster - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 950 Views
Sure, I will admit that. Legolas - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 919 Views
No Derek Hunter is not all knowing, he repeats the same schtick and eventually it may come true. *NM* Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:59:14 PM 555 Views
There you go again. Cannoli - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 979 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... Jeordam - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 857 Views
You know what I did? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 970 Views
Good Idea.... Jeordam - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 883 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 949 Views
What Can I say, Derek Hunter is a publicity whore, and has made his living making culture wars Roland00 - 14/06/2017 08:58:07 PM 860 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right AgentApple - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 896 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. Legolas - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 999 Views
That's not correct. Tom - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 996 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. nossy - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 961 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 507 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD nossy - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 899 Views
Agreed. *NM* Avendesora - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 949 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 983 Views
funny you would say that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 966 Views
I so miss Camilla. Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 875 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders damookster - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 1000 Views
God I miss Wads Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 988 Views
D'oh! *NM* damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 546 Views
*NM* nossy - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 599 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* Legolas - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 476 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 772 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate Anonymous2000 - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 884 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" Ghavrel - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 1005 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. The Shrike - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 916 Views
Yeah, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 980 Views
yes, that damookster - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 907 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 855 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 907 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? Tom - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 863 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 826 Views
Well, yeah nossy - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 918 Views
It's only nuts if you see the left as a single group that can be led and controlled. Legolas - 15/06/2017 09:04:05 PM 858 Views
It's nuts because the left sees everyone as a single group that can be led and controlled. aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 01:05:41 AM 749 Views
I think I understand that, actually. A libertarian friend pointed it out to me. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:30:09 AM 833 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 989 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 775 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? Tom - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1074 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 899 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? Tom - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 844 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 802 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one Tom - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 939 Views
Also, I don't mind people bluntly telling me I'm wrong when they have good reason to. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 03:24:14 AM 488 Views
Poor Weimar. The Shrike - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 870 Views
Ha! aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 842 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 919 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 968 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel Roland00 - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 922 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" Tom - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 772 Views
I unironically use some of those Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 1007 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* Tom - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 503 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 843 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. Ghavrel - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 984 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle Roland00 - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 897 Views
I hope this doesn't offend, but you sound like you're talking to a child. nossy - 17/06/2017 09:55:40 AM 840 Views
I fear for any child on the receiving end of whatever that was. *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2017 11:02:42 AM 507 Views
You're overthinking this. Vodalus - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 968 Views
What are you even talking about? Ghavrel - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 1019 Views
POC ßelals Girl - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 866 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" Tom - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 851 Views
Point of Contact aerocontrols - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1068 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 941 Views
I have some good needs damookster - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 850 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 507 Views
You're special no matter what. You're the only you there is. </Mr. Rogers> *NM* Tom - 16/06/2017 07:19:14 PM 481 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly Tom - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 920 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 944 Views
My opinion on this Roland00 - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1111 Views
No ßelals Girl - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 846 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* Roland00 - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 507 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* ßelals Girl - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 551 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* damookster - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 509 Views
POP LiterateDog - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 967 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke Roland00 - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 915 Views
That is the way I started to feel about the conserative movement random thoughts - 15/06/2017 09:41:07 PM 883 Views
President Mike Pence aerocontrols - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 906 Views
LOL LiterateDog - 15/06/2017 03:56:37 PM 883 Views
Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. Vodalus - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 953 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness Roland00 - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 857 Views
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