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The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. Tom Send a noteboard - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM

If the Left (and I use that term exclusively because the term "liberal" is misapplied to the Left, who have become extremely illiberal of late) believes that violence to stop "hate speech" is acceptable, they really should understand that violence can't be controlled. Even if we were to assume for an instant, arguendo, that it would not be evil per se to murder someone for hateful beliefs, we know that someone is then going to say that person's family is tainted with his beliefs and kill the children. Everyone draws the line at a different point, and when murder takes place, everyone's line is far beyond legitimacy. The very reason we prohibit violence is to protect basic freedoms. We need to circumscribe it even when legitimately used by the state to ensure that no abuse is possible.

Yet somehow, there is a growing belief on the Left that private violence is justified. Of course, if that is the case, then sooner or later I'm going to go around armed in response because I'll have to. If I have reason to believe that Leftists are going around murdering people due to their political beliefs, then if a Leftist starts harassing me my instinct will be to shoot them before I get shot. In this way paramilitary groups will form, just as the Spartacists in Weimar Germany spurred the formation of paramilitary groups. Believe me, I don't want that. I don't want to have to choose between a fascist future and a communist future. I don't want to have to choose between batshit crazy Social Justice Warriors and batshit crazy Daily Sturmers. But if the Left normalizes violence, then I'm going to have to pick a side because our normal political discourse will be dead. My favored methods of resolving disputes - debating, voting and suing - will become ineffective. So at that point I'll have to start singing "Der Rote kommt nie mehr zu Ruh' ".

Of course, once there are street battles between armed paramilitary groups it's only a matter of time before the actual military gets involved, which would lead to either civil war or a military coup. Neither of those are good for the US, and I suspect that the end result of either would not be something that the Left would be happy with. Far more people with guns and training are against the Left than on the Left. For every loser like Reality Winner there are probably 1,000 veterans who think the Antifa and SJWs are full of shit (rightly so). I suspect the numbers in active duty may be even higher.

So yes, this call to violence needs to stop, NOW. Either that or I'll go on a gun buying spree and make sure everyone in my family knows how to shoot with deadly accuracy.

Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
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The Left Won’t Rest Until Someone Gets Killed - 14/06/2017 02:47:58 PM 1714 Views
Totally agreed with this article... - 14/06/2017 03:58:40 PM 1002 Views
The funny thing about violence is you can't control it. - 14/06/2017 04:31:35 PM 953 Views
So you thought that would scare me Tom? - 14/06/2017 09:30:34 PM 912 Views
especially since the gunman has been identified - 14/06/2017 05:42:14 PM 982 Views
And the penny drops... *NM* - 14/06/2017 05:59:30 PM 551 Views
Bernie isn't a Democrat, though - 14/06/2017 06:31:28 PM 948 Views
How embarrassing that he accidentally ran for their presidential nomination! - 14/06/2017 07:18:57 PM 866 Views
Not an accident - 14/06/2017 07:28:12 PM 845 Views
And in Wonder Woman the Movie they wore different hats!!! - 14/06/2017 09:09:57 PM 854 Views
You mean the Clinton cabal stopped him - 15/06/2017 04:22:41 AM 844 Views
I think you give too much credit to the Clintons - 15/06/2017 04:49:26 AM 933 Views
I would have actually respected her more... - 15/06/2017 07:07:08 PM 809 Views
well no other democrats wanted to run against her there was an opening *NM* - 15/06/2017 09:41:50 PM 562 Views
There are valid points, but rather a lot of bullshit inbetween for my taste. - 14/06/2017 07:07:10 PM 1087 Views
Obviously excessive hyperbole is a problem from both sides - 14/06/2017 07:20:59 PM 922 Views
Sure, I will admit that. - 14/06/2017 07:23:24 PM 873 Views
There you go again. - 14/06/2017 07:52:47 PM 919 Views
Yeah, that part sucked.... - 14/06/2017 09:14:10 PM 799 Views
You know what I did? - 15/06/2017 04:16:08 AM 922 Views
Good Idea.... - 15/06/2017 06:59:47 PM 833 Views
Yup. Isn't it shocking? - 14/06/2017 09:18:45 PM 890 Views
I find myself drifting more and more to the right - 14/06/2017 08:26:26 PM 846 Views
I don't, or at least not in an American context, but I agree about the dead horse. - 14/06/2017 09:32:23 PM 948 Views
That's not correct. - 15/06/2017 04:19:06 AM 944 Views
I agree with Tom's premise, if not the content. - 15/06/2017 09:46:57 AM 906 Views
I really should post more. We're letting Tom and Cannoli get away with far too much. *NM* - 15/06/2017 10:12:53 AM 486 Views
YES, YOU SHOULD - 15/06/2017 11:09:34 AM 846 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 15/06/2017 02:45:40 PM 925 Views
It would still be a pretty right-wing site - 15/06/2017 02:58:30 PM 935 Views
funny you would say that - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 917 Views
I so miss Camilla. - 15/06/2017 08:50:36 PM 857 Views
Camilla and the Aussies were our lefty leaders - 15/06/2017 09:04:12 PM 948 Views
God I miss Wads - 15/06/2017 10:29:38 PM 949 Views
D'oh! *NM* - 15/06/2017 03:20:58 PM 526 Views
*NM* - 15/06/2017 04:37:56 PM 576 Views
I never could tell when you were being sarcastic and when not. On the whole I'm thinking yes. *NM* - 15/06/2017 08:48:54 PM 453 Views
Hmm... I miss Camilla too. - 15/06/2017 08:55:04 PM 727 Views
Sad but true - the left is truly unhinged, full of violence and hate - 15/06/2017 03:36:20 AM 840 Views
I was considering making a post called "what the fuck is wrong with progressives?" - 15/06/2017 06:49:10 AM 953 Views
It's because they have begun to eat themselves. - 15/06/2017 02:14:23 PM 861 Views
Yeah, but... - 15/06/2017 02:46:51 PM 938 Views
yes, that - 15/06/2017 03:20:00 PM 861 Views
The day I realized that I didn't know every damned thing was when I at last gained a little wisdom. - 15/06/2017 03:30:07 PM 830 Views
I get where you're coming from, but... - 15/06/2017 05:01:13 PM 848 Views
Isn't that a good characterization of much of the Left? - 15/06/2017 04:09:10 PM 814 Views
Maybe? A large section of the academic left, anyway - 15/06/2017 05:17:14 PM 772 Views
Well, yeah - 15/06/2017 04:36:37 PM 866 Views
The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass... - 15/06/2017 10:40:42 PM 934 Views
I can promise you they haven't read their history. - 16/06/2017 12:25:56 AM 731 Views
No offense intended, but have *you* read it carefully? - 16/06/2017 01:41:19 AM 1025 Views
I've read it somewhat carefully. I think I said my point poorly, though. - 16/06/2017 03:23:26 AM 857 Views
An obsession with the rule of law in Weimar Germany? - 16/06/2017 04:26:30 AM 789 Views
She blocked me after telling me to go fuck myself. - 16/06/2017 04:38:43 AM 750 Views
Sounds like a winner, that one - 16/06/2017 02:20:19 PM 889 Views
Poor Weimar. - 16/06/2017 12:32:09 PM 817 Views
Ha! - 16/06/2017 03:00:38 PM 790 Views
Their shenanigans actually hurt their cause. - 15/06/2017 03:32:09 PM 901 Views
Also, they're just puerile. Pussy hats? Seriously? If you want to be taken seriously, dress properly - 16/06/2017 12:36:36 AM 918 Views
A short webcomic for you ghavrel - 16/06/2017 01:54:00 AM 867 Views
Most Americans laugh at "microaggressions" and phrases like "toxic masculinity" - 16/06/2017 04:31:40 AM 732 Views
I unironically use some of those - 16/06/2017 04:42:21 AM 957 Views
Quit gaslighting me, dude *NM* - 16/06/2017 02:18:17 PM 483 Views
Why do you hate the word gaslighting? - 16/06/2017 08:42:34 PM 791 Views
It's used by progressives whenever someone disagrees with them. - 16/06/2017 11:24:03 PM 934 Views
So let me come at this from a different angle - 17/06/2017 04:48:37 AM 858 Views
You're overthinking this. - 17/06/2017 10:28:47 AM 922 Views
What are you even talking about? - 17/06/2017 11:01:42 AM 970 Views
POC - 16/06/2017 01:54:31 PM 806 Views
I would assume "POC" meant "piece of crap" - 16/06/2017 02:17:07 PM 805 Views
Point of Contact - 16/06/2017 03:09:26 PM 1019 Views
WTF? "Good needs"? That doesn't even make any sense! - 16/06/2017 05:55:45 PM 893 Views
I have some good needs - 16/06/2017 06:07:35 PM 804 Views
I'll just bet you do. *NM* - 16/06/2017 06:13:23 PM 483 Views
Neither does "handicapped", honestly - 16/06/2017 07:18:15 PM 865 Views
It will stop, the robots will one day take over - 16/06/2017 08:41:03 PM 896 Views
My opinion on this - 16/06/2017 08:39:40 PM 1061 Views
No - 17/06/2017 07:11:17 AM 794 Views
Belas, a rhetorical question, where do monsters come from? *NM* - 17/06/2017 08:58:00 AM 487 Views
These come from institutions of higher "learning" *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:07:47 PM 542 Views
under the bed or in the bedroom closet. d'uh. *NM* - 17/06/2017 05:30:05 PM 489 Views
POP - 16/06/2017 09:07:28 PM 927 Views
Thought you were going to make a People of Penes / Penii joke - 16/06/2017 09:43:31 PM 865 Views
That is the way I started to feel about the conserative movement - 15/06/2017 09:41:07 PM 832 Views
President Mike Pence - 15/06/2017 03:53:15 PM 858 Views
LOL - 15/06/2017 03:56:37 PM 831 Views
Too much Jacobin. Not enough Jacques. - 15/06/2017 09:58:27 PM 909 Views
RAWR, bows down to the sexiness - 15/06/2017 10:45:41 PM 811 Views

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