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But... Her #1 goal since the very first page she is on is to NOT be "a innkeeper's daughter". Dunstan Send a noteboard - 31/05/2017 06:14:18 AM

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I think RJ's writing of her as a innkeeper's daughter early-on was what I always expected of her throughout the series. I always wanted some element of that person to persist regardless of how her responsibilities changed. The change from Egwene in the first half to the second half of the story is too dramatic to be believable.

I believe this was intentional on RJ's part as he wanted to change the character to more broadly reflect her changed role in the story. But, I just don't see that being a realistic portrayal of a human being. I think she could've maintained the relatively even-keeled, thoughtful innkeeper's daughter from the Two Rivers while having an important relationship with a more experienced advisor like Siuan. This way it could've transitioned her from being an inexperienced, simpleton (but kind), to a kind, intelligent, rational leader surrounded by strong advisers with trusted experience.

Instead, it felt like she was transitioned to an isolated, untrusting, cold-hearted leader that left the reader (me at least) longing for the interesting, emotionally complex character from earlier in the series.


I mean... It's like the very heart of her entire character(To the point I'm not even sure what "early-on book" you were reading), and her failing at it... Would of been rather hard to even work into her character arc while actually keeping her involved in the overall plot.

... Hell, I forget. Was Bran even still an innkeeper?

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But... Her #1 goal since the very first page she is on is to NOT be "a innkeeper's daughter". Dunstan - 31/05/2017 06:14:18 AM 801 Views
That's true, but she WAS an innkeepers daughter. nossy - 31/05/2017 10:49:04 AM 733 Views
Which simply made her all the more reckless in attempting to NOT be until she wasn't. *NM* Dunstan - 31/05/2017 04:22:46 PM 473 Views
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The ludicrous amounts of subplots and minor characters. Bergioyn - 11/06/2017 09:32:32 PM 923 Views
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