I had the same thoughts and didn't really get it but a few it started to fall together a bit when I thought about it a bit more and broke it down into the individual actions the Reapers take and saw if I could tie it all together.
Why destroy all life over and over again:
I'm sure this point will be fully clarified at some point in the final part of the trilogy, but my guess would be they came out on the winning side of a long past conflict and this was their solution to always stay on top.
How do they decide when to wipe out all life again:
Looking at the various races it seems the older, longer living species, have the strongest biotic abilities. From the sound of it only the Asari and a few rare Krogan are naturally biotics, most other species only gain biotic abilities after exposure to Element Zero. From what we saw of sovereign with the indoctrination, and Harbingers control of the collectors, it would seem that they have abilities that would be beyond even the scope of their technology. So the only likely explenation is their using biotic powers.
Why build a new reaper:
After sovereign was destroyed they were basically trapted in dark space, so it would seem they needed a new actual reaper to open the way for their return, as the collectors alone couldn't do it perhaps. This obviously failing the reapers awaken and just take off and fly in from dark space the old fashioned way. Obviously this wasn't their first choice, and i'm sure the expended energy will keep them from being at the top of their came from the very start, and they also won't have control of the mass relays since they never took the citadel.
Why design a human reaper:
The most common reasoning most people agree on, other then the shock factor, is that since shepard was a human and he caused the destruction of sovereign then humans were the superio race to design themselves off of.
What I also think plays a roll in it all though is that even from the start with the collectors plague not effecting humans we are shown that humans are different then other alien races. I believe it's stated that humans have a more diverse genetic background so they didn't engineer the virus to affect humans, and perhaps this makes them the ideal candidate to form a reaper out of as it makes human goo the easiest to work with.
Again going back to the idea that the reapers want biotics, I think it would then be believable that for a reaper to be as powerful as possible the would need to combine both organic and non-organic traits. You mix the organic side to gain the biotic abilities such as indoctination, and the non-organic side in the form of highly advanced technology.
As for the form of the human reaper, I don't think what we saw is what the final form would look like. Looking at concept art for Sovereign it showed that the bottom of the ship actually more closesly resembled the face of the original species thought to be prothean. The tenticle face and all, but then the collectors being evolved from protheans and it being stated they couldn't be used to form a reaper, it could be sovereign was based off of a different race, or that all reapers get the same outer top shell so that they would appear somewhat similar regardless of what race they come from once fully developed.
What will they do now:
I think from the end of ME:2 it's clear that the reapers have given up on gaining control of the citadel and the mass relays after suffering defeats in both ME:1 and 2, and will just fly straight into the galaxy from dark space.
This is probably the only reason that organics will stand a chance in ME:3. As many reapers as their are, and as advanced as their technology is, they will still have to face opposition in a way that is completely contrary to their carefully laid cycles that they have repeated for so long.
Anyways, Just a few thoughts. I hate when I don't find a story point believable in an otherwise good story so hopefully they bring it all together in a coherent mannor. If not then I'll just go off of my own little story I guess!
Why destroy all life over and over again:
I'm sure this point will be fully clarified at some point in the final part of the trilogy, but my guess would be they came out on the winning side of a long past conflict and this was their solution to always stay on top.
How do they decide when to wipe out all life again:
Looking at the various races it seems the older, longer living species, have the strongest biotic abilities. From the sound of it only the Asari and a few rare Krogan are naturally biotics, most other species only gain biotic abilities after exposure to Element Zero. From what we saw of sovereign with the indoctrination, and Harbingers control of the collectors, it would seem that they have abilities that would be beyond even the scope of their technology. So the only likely explenation is their using biotic powers.
Why build a new reaper:
After sovereign was destroyed they were basically trapted in dark space, so it would seem they needed a new actual reaper to open the way for their return, as the collectors alone couldn't do it perhaps. This obviously failing the reapers awaken and just take off and fly in from dark space the old fashioned way. Obviously this wasn't their first choice, and i'm sure the expended energy will keep them from being at the top of their came from the very start, and they also won't have control of the mass relays since they never took the citadel.
Why design a human reaper:
The most common reasoning most people agree on, other then the shock factor, is that since shepard was a human and he caused the destruction of sovereign then humans were the superio race to design themselves off of.
What I also think plays a roll in it all though is that even from the start with the collectors plague not effecting humans we are shown that humans are different then other alien races. I believe it's stated that humans have a more diverse genetic background so they didn't engineer the virus to affect humans, and perhaps this makes them the ideal candidate to form a reaper out of as it makes human goo the easiest to work with.
Again going back to the idea that the reapers want biotics, I think it would then be believable that for a reaper to be as powerful as possible the would need to combine both organic and non-organic traits. You mix the organic side to gain the biotic abilities such as indoctination, and the non-organic side in the form of highly advanced technology.
As for the form of the human reaper, I don't think what we saw is what the final form would look like. Looking at concept art for Sovereign it showed that the bottom of the ship actually more closesly resembled the face of the original species thought to be prothean. The tenticle face and all, but then the collectors being evolved from protheans and it being stated they couldn't be used to form a reaper, it could be sovereign was based off of a different race, or that all reapers get the same outer top shell so that they would appear somewhat similar regardless of what race they come from once fully developed.
What will they do now:
I think from the end of ME:2 it's clear that the reapers have given up on gaining control of the citadel and the mass relays after suffering defeats in both ME:1 and 2, and will just fly straight into the galaxy from dark space.
This is probably the only reason that organics will stand a chance in ME:3. As many reapers as their are, and as advanced as their technology is, they will still have to face opposition in a way that is completely contrary to their carefully laid cycles that they have repeated for so long.
Anyways, Just a few thoughts. I hate when I don't find a story point believable in an otherwise good story so hopefully they bring it all together in a coherent mannor. If not then I'll just go off of my own little story I guess!
Why not? Let's have a Mass Effect thread.
02/02/2010 05:02:32 PM
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Character discussion: Mordin Solus
02/02/2010 06:28:41 PM
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Mordin Solus is great
02/02/2010 08:21:26 PM
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Actually, that's what happened to me too.
02/02/2010 08:33:22 PM
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The Illusive man
02/02/2010 08:34:09 PM
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I didn't even realize that's who he was.
02/02/2010 08:44:07 PM
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"I'm having trouble hearing you. I'm getting a lot of bullshit on this line." *NM*
02/02/2010 09:34:53 PM
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Who is sharing your bed?
02/02/2010 09:42:09 PM
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Tali for my male Shepherd
04/02/2010 03:52:03 PM
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Does she take the helmet off? *NM*
04/02/2010 07:57:18 PM
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I went simple - Miranda.
07/02/2010 06:32:25 AM
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Which reminds me that I always wondered...
07/02/2010 11:54:14 AM
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You probably wouldn't be able to woo anyone by being a total dick. *NM*
07/02/2010 03:32:41 PM
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I was lucky enough to meet the game's producer... (No spoilers)
02/02/2010 10:58:59 PM
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No spoilers here either, as per my rules. Regarding the ammo:
03/02/2010 04:51:54 AM
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I just want to be part of this....that said, Best Buy is no longer selling ME:1
02/02/2010 11:16:51 PM
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Could well be.
03/02/2010 04:52:49 AM
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Glad the PC version was $50, at the risk of sounding like a snob.
03/02/2010 04:01:52 PM
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Mass Effect 1 vs 2: RPG-shooter vs Shooter-rpg (This is for you, Cymbaline!) (No spoilers)
02/02/2010 11:28:24 PM
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The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
03/02/2010 11:27:55 PM
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Re: The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
04/02/2010 04:59:54 AM
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Re: The "Holy crap that was awesome" moments. SPOILERS
04/02/2010 06:16:29 AM
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Well. . .somewhat, I guess.
04/02/2010 06:43:02 AM
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Re: Well. . .somewhat, I guess.
04/02/2010 03:32:26 PM
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You know what? I'll actually buy that. I appreciate the explanation.
04/02/2010 06:30:37 PM
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A couple of more things......
16/02/2010 12:41:19 AM
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Game was too easy, primary plotline too short
04/02/2010 09:03:52 PM
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Nice. I'm playing through on Insanity now, and I think it's a good challenge.
05/02/2010 02:17:02 AM
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Whats your character build?
05/02/2010 02:45:31 PM
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Ok, so male or female Shepherd?
05/02/2010 01:50:23 AM
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Hm. This brings up a thought.
05/02/2010 01:52:37 AM
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Male for my first playthrough, female for my second.
05/02/2010 02:28:24 AM
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Male so far. I plan on playing the female Shepard next playthrough. *NM*
05/02/2010 03:25:00 AM
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Your Teams, and Your Deaths.
07/02/2010 06:30:25 AM
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Re: Your Teams, and Your Deaths.
07/02/2010 09:07:17 AM
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Do you know...
07/02/2010 03:46:59 PM
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Re: Do you know...
07/02/2010 04:31:29 PM
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Awesome. Thanks! *NM*
07/02/2010 04:40:59 PM
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Yeah, that's what I did.
07/02/2010 06:37:50 PM
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Hmmm...
09/02/2010 03:48:48 PM
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Strange.
09/02/2010 04:19:04 PM
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me too
13/02/2010 03:01:05 PM
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Did you do Legion's loyalty mission?
15/02/2010 05:52:36 AM
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I did, for what it's worth.
15/02/2010 07:26:38 AM
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Gah. Then I wonder if loyalty of the rest of the crew has something to do with it.
15/02/2010 04:20:13 PM
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I have come across a big problem.
07/02/2010 06:53:36 PM
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Want FREE Mass Effect 2 DLC? ME 2! (har, har) Bioware bonus goodies detailed inside.
09/02/2010 07:03:23 PM
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Now if only the DLC armors didn't have helmets.
09/02/2010 07:26:47 PM
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Of course, the Shotgun is released AFTER I beat my Vanguard *sigh*
09/02/2010 11:31:13 PM
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It's nice, but you don't miss much if you already had the Claymore shotty w/ an ammo upgrade. *NM*
10/02/2010 05:16:00 AM
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Anyone find anything interesting about Zaeed Massani?
11/02/2010 09:08:16 PM
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I enjoy Zaeed.
11/02/2010 09:22:39 PM
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I'm near your spot in the story and completely agree. One-sided conversations, but worthwhile. *NM*
11/02/2010 10:20:47 PM
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Yeah, I've listened to him alot but it's the same stuff every time.
12/02/2010 03:14:11 PM
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Who, what, where? *NM*
22/02/2010 08:18:31 PM
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If you bought a new copy of the game, it came with a code for the "Cerberus Network"
22/02/2010 08:22:18 PM
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Is there a way to install the game on the Xbox, so you don't have to switch discs?
12/02/2010 01:39:07 AM
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Good ones have two discs, of course. DVDs can only hold so much. *NM*
12/02/2010 02:46:39 AM
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This is the first I've ever seen. *NM*
12/02/2010 02:51:34 AM
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I've never understood why people are unhappy with the multiple discs.
12/02/2010 04:18:42 AM
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So far, so great!
12/02/2010 08:35:00 AM
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Re: So far, so great!
12/02/2010 02:31:43 PM
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Re: So far, so great!
16/02/2010 10:17:12 PM
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Nope, I was referring to honest-to-goodness cheating. lol
16/02/2010 11:03:53 PM
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Ahh, I just figured you were on console as I am, so.....the grind will continue I guess *NM*
17/02/2010 06:41:59 PM
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I love the detail put into this game.
12/02/2010 02:58:35 PM
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"Our amino acids aren't even compatable so there's no risk if we go natural."
12/02/2010 03:15:50 PM
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Re: "Our amino acids aren't even compatable so there's no risk if we go natural."
12/02/2010 07:16:21 PM
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"Technically we don't even have sex drives... oh, she is rather flexible...." *NM*
12/02/2010 07:20:53 PM
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Female Turians....
12/02/2010 09:05:39 PM
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Nope. Don't exist in-game.
14/02/2010 01:47:23 AM
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I believe a krogan female is shown once.
14/02/2010 02:03:27 AM
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No I don't think that's right.
14/02/2010 08:54:32 AM
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Asari
15/02/2010 06:51:10 AM
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Not really.
15/02/2010 10:41:54 PM
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Though it is fun seeing the asari coupled with basically every race under the sun.
15/02/2010 10:54:41 PM
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The final verdict
22/02/2010 08:06:12 PM
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By the way, my game was surprisingly buggy
23/02/2010 08:49:28 AM
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A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
27/02/2010 06:40:35 AM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
27/02/2010 12:28:29 PM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
27/02/2010 04:57:43 PM
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Re: A complaint about the Morality system. (Or, how Mass Effect semi-killed roleplaying).
28/02/2010 12:34:31 AM
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A vital part of role-playing is forcing the player to deal with the consequences of their actions
27/02/2010 11:53:56 PM
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Admittedly, my post was somewhat stream-of-consciousness.
28/02/2010 03:28:02 AM
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