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I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker Send a noteboard - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM
If Planescape: Torment and Fallout are the best videogames have to offer...
Well, let's just agree to disagree. And by "agree to disagree", I of course mean that I'm right.


An admission of defeat if I've ever heard one! Unwilling even to attempt to critique or respond. You are, of course, welcome to live in your own world, though. Have fun.
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So being a FF fan and never having played FF 12... Dark Knight - 24/09/2009 10:25:44 PM 920 Views
The story in FF12 leaves much to be desired Dragonsworn - 24/09/2009 10:41:28 PM 830 Views
I love FF but I didn't even bother to finish 12 *NM* Marius2000 - 24/09/2009 10:45:55 PM 357 Views
You're not alone- the characters just didn't click for me, nor did the plot beetnemesis - 24/09/2009 11:16:11 PM 745 Views
Videogame stories suck the big one, with VERY few exceptions. Joker - 25/09/2009 12:29:39 AM 766 Views
FF7?!?! You're a nutcase! Kotagg - 25/09/2009 01:50:16 AM 708 Views
It was still good though Brian - 26/09/2009 03:06:12 AM 599 Views
Fair enough. Maybe I'm proving my own point. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:46:26 AM 758 Views
I will have to disagree with this... MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:20:46 AM 664 Views
Exactly. When I think story here, I think of the individual stories as well as the whole. Kotagg - 26/09/2009 07:13:24 PM 779 Views
Still, it's good for a videogame story. Joker - 26/09/2009 07:54:01 PM 699 Views
I agree, with caveat. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:54:25 PM 806 Views
New games do not feature the storytelling prowess of good TV, films, or novels. Joker - 28/09/2009 01:03:46 AM 719 Views
I disagree. Maybe you're playing the wrong games. *NM* Cymbaline - 28/09/2009 04:51:48 AM 344 Views
What is the videogame equivalent of The Godfather, The Wire, or Great Expectations? *NM* Joker - 01/10/2009 03:31:37 AM 368 Views
Ah, I see. *NM* Joker - 03/10/2009 08:02:28 PM 382 Views
Say what? Cymbaline - 04/10/2009 02:21:01 PM 671 Views
"Ah, I see" means "You haven't answered because there is no satisfactory answer." Joker - 05/10/2009 07:06:03 AM 686 Views
So you expect me to reply within two days when it took you three? Cymbaline - 05/10/2009 10:29:27 PM 617 Views
I've used that escape from a debate I was losing, too. It's a good one Joker - 06/10/2009 09:21:31 PM 739 Views
I... don't think you understand how this works. Cymbaline - 06/10/2009 11:41:12 PM 679 Views
Anything of worth? Joker - 09/10/2009 03:24:42 AM 661 Views
Cymbaline is right. Some games have excellent stories. MightyYT - 29/09/2009 10:44:16 AM 655 Views
And yet so many people claim to play them for their stories... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 03:06:44 AM 765 Views
The extras lower peoples' standards, but I DO think it's still the story. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:34:30 AM 662 Views
That's basically what I meant. lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 05:05:19 AM 640 Views
Yeah I understand. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:18:34 AM 721 Views
You are correct. But it sounds like semantics to me, since in practice... lord-of-shadow - 25/09/2009 06:00:41 AM 676 Views
I suppose it is, at that. Aemon - 25/09/2009 01:58:25 PM 718 Views
Well said. Joker - 26/09/2009 06:48:10 AM 681 Views
I enjoyed 12 more than most of those you mentioned... MightyYT - 25/09/2009 12:55:56 AM 658 Views
I agree. *NM* Manusho - 25/09/2009 02:44:08 AM 438 Views
The grid was fine, but didn't scale well. Aemon - 25/09/2009 04:35:57 AM 657 Views
I'll agree with this point, but I also agree with most of the thoughts of the GP Jragghen - 25/09/2009 05:26:18 PM 738 Views
I am glad that at least one person here is with me on this. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:53:42 AM 684 Views
It's interesting.... lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:55:18 PM 718 Views
Plot doesn't kick in until later on, sadly Jragghen - 26/09/2009 07:27:55 PM 670 Views
I partially agree with LoS, and I partially disagree with you. Cymbaline - 27/09/2009 12:07:07 AM 762 Views
Opinion mine: 12 was a great game, and a terrible Final Fantasy. Aemon - 25/09/2009 05:03:28 AM 729 Views
I didn't like it and didn't finish *NM* Deadsy - 25/09/2009 05:34:42 AM 344 Views
i finished it recently and i found it allright Yunalesca - 25/09/2009 11:30:36 AM 886 Views
Final Fantasy XII was the best written FF ever, by far. Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 05:47:27 AM 729 Views
I agree with this. MightyYT - 26/09/2009 08:22:40 AM 712 Views
LOL... FFXII was the best FFXII ever? TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 03:43:11 PM 682 Views
That was juvenile, TMJ. Also, he said best written FF. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 06:58:12 PM 380 Views
Yes, it was funny on a juvenile level. TaskmasterJack - 26/09/2009 07:11:12 PM 679 Views
Ah, I must have missed the typo. lord-of-shadow - 26/09/2009 08:32:51 PM 742 Views
So much confusion everywhere! Cymbaline - 26/09/2009 11:48:32 PM 760 Views
Some of us --I'd even say MOST of us-- like that, though. Aemon - 26/09/2009 07:20:55 PM 723 Views
Agreed, I want to get into a magical whale's belly and fly through the air ... The_Muted_Grimaud - 28/09/2009 05:03:14 AM 923 Views
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