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The stealth skills come in very handy though. Joel Send a noteboard - 09/09/2012 04:11:40 PM
Imoen dual classes as a mage in Baldur's Gate II, so aside from that brief period where I get to use Yoshimo, I'm typically stuck with very little rogues :P.

Imoens frustrated the living Hell out of me; how anyone can make it to (IIRC) 8th or 9th level as a thief with only about 35% Move Silently and Hide in Shadows is beyond me. I know she was supposed to be all about traps and lock picking, but that is pretty disgraceful (particularly since you can usually get by with minimal trap detection skill; you just have to wait a little longer to find traps when you know they are there.)

With boots of speed and good stealth skills though I can send a F/T and straight class thief (possibly accompanied by a Stalker) on reconnaissance in force knowing they can quickly drop anything less than five guys without help from the rest of the party. You can usually get by with a multi or dual class thief though; it does not become a problem unless that is your ONLY thief, because otherwise you can pump the stealth skills of two thieves and have one specialize in traps while the other specializes in picking pockets.
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Baldurs Gate Enhanced Edition: Edit 2 with added video & launch delay - 07/09/2012 09:48:16 PM 2797 Views
!!!!! - 07/09/2012 10:49:47 PM 1425 Views
are they created kindly or cruelly? - 08/09/2012 05:34:36 PM 1386 Views
Lol! Realistically, if exaggerated to heroic levels. - 09/09/2012 07:56:32 PM 1409 Views
I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once - 08/09/2012 06:07:15 AM 1522 Views
BGI is a lot more fun because a lot more challenging, IMHO. - 08/09/2012 02:33:17 PM 1397 Views
*revelation* - 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM 1357 Views
fireballs are so epic in BG1 - 08/09/2012 05:41:34 PM 1393 Views
I disagree about it being the only good third level spell;lighting bolt and haste are also excellent - 08/09/2012 06:26:08 PM 1511 Views
Yeah, I loved Lightning Bolt. - 08/09/2012 06:44:59 PM 1331 Views
it was such a liability - 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM 1386 Views
Bouncing is what makes lightning bolts great, because you get to hit people more than once. - 08/09/2012 08:59:10 PM 1341 Views
There's an unfortunate Wizard in the Firewine Bridge Ruins... - 09/09/2012 12:58:18 AM 1419 Views
Oops. - 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM 1409 Views
that's why BG1 was so awesome. exploration=rewards - 09/09/2012 09:09:22 AM 1373 Views
Yeah, got to keep one of each on hand. - 08/09/2012 08:57:31 PM 1290 Views
Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party. - 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM 1383 Views
well yeah, because there was no connection to figure out - 08/09/2012 06:59:49 PM 1477 Views
Right; I was never a big multiplayer fan anyway, but customized parties were nice - 08/09/2012 08:53:45 PM 1485 Views
Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though? - 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM 1472 Views
I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM 1581 Views
Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. - 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM 1410 Views
Agreed. - 11/09/2012 07:01:07 PM 1446 Views
Suggestion since you're not using the NPCs anyway... - 15/09/2012 11:34:28 PM 1482 Views
That is a good thought; I never played IWD. - 16/09/2012 03:31:01 AM 1368 Views
Where did you think I just got it? - 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM 1323 Views
How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties? - 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM 1313 Views
Re: How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties? - 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM 1484 Views
I still like GURPS' character points best. - 17/09/2012 11:40:12 PM 1361 Views
Heh, I'm not surprised. - 18/09/2012 01:47:55 AM 1367 Views
If you want to avoid hyperspecialization, avoid classes. - 18/09/2012 07:36:43 AM 1585 Views
I've never played GURPS, so I don't know how its system works. - 18/09/2012 03:32:21 PM 1454 Views
I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. - 19/09/2012 03:37:19 AM 1796 Views
Re: I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. - 19/09/2012 08:35:24 AM 1388 Views
It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." - 19/09/2012 10:58:31 PM 1483 Views
Re: It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." - 20/09/2012 12:31:10 AM 1372 Views
AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. - 24/09/2012 05:53:39 AM 1687 Views
Re: AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. - 24/09/2012 07:03:39 AM 1364 Views
Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. - 24/09/2012 08:33:23 AM 1614 Views
Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. - 24/09/2012 07:24:51 PM 1483 Views
My point is no one should be at any level. - 25/09/2012 01:23:21 AM 1609 Views
Re: My point is no one should be at any level. - 25/09/2012 03:41:42 AM 1615 Views
I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. - 25/09/2012 05:16:49 AM 1412 Views
Re: I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. - 25/09/2012 06:05:39 PM 1544 Views
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I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far. - 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM 1309 Views
Nah, IWD I barely had any story at all. - 18/09/2012 08:16:49 PM 1243 Views
agreed - 19/09/2012 09:42:28 AM 1521 Views
I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1 - 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM 1425 Views
If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods. - 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM 1299 Views
But what's the point in playing the game if you don't use the NPCs? - 08/09/2012 06:47:38 PM 1327 Views
agreed the NPCs are half the fun - 08/09/2012 07:02:22 PM 1353 Views
Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling. - 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM 1454 Views
Yeah, but optimising the whole group sounds ridiculously easy. - 09/09/2012 01:03:51 AM 1313 Views
Well, there are always mods for that. - 09/09/2012 01:37:42 AM 1263 Views
For talking to pretty much anyone, really. - 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM 1361 Views
True. - 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM 1377 Views
Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party. - 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM 1318 Views
there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB - 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM 1255 Views
I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP. - 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM 1372 Views
storyline man! - 10/09/2012 01:43:51 PM 1328 Views
I make my OWN storyline. - 10/09/2012 06:35:43 PM 1404 Views
Just how many thieves do you even need? - 10/09/2012 06:22:58 PM 1363 Views
The stealth skills come in very handy though. - 09/09/2012 04:11:40 PM 1353 Views
Any suggested parties for beginners? *NM* - 10/09/2012 01:13:38 AM 738 Views
I plan to do custom characters for the other 6 slots - 10/09/2012 01:42:41 AM 1305 Views
There are no "other" six slots - there are six slots, period. - 10/09/2012 06:24:33 PM 1306 Views
well, absolute standard would be: - 10/09/2012 01:35:15 PM 1405 Views
My own recommendation would be: - 10/09/2012 07:36:04 PM 1327 Views
I am completely stoked about it. - 10/09/2012 07:07:09 PM 1417 Views
TotSC made BGI a LOT more fun. - 10/09/2012 07:46:03 PM 1267 Views
all the kits/races/dual wielding etc will be available in bgee - 11/09/2012 09:02:35 AM 1298 Views
Ah; nice. - 11/09/2012 06:57:14 PM 1420 Views
i'm not sure they were even state of the art at the time - 12/09/2012 09:26:05 AM 1322 Views
Remember, BGI was released only about two years after Doom. - 13/09/2012 12:05:11 AM 1375 Views
If by "two" you mean "five," then yes. DOOM was released in 1993. - 13/09/2012 03:22:58 PM 1338 Views
Ah, 1998. The golden year. Ocarina of Time. Starcraft. Half-Life. *NM* - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 760 Views
Can't believe I forgot about HALF-LIFE. *NM* - 13/09/2012 09:06:55 PM 750 Views
That just reminds me of how sad it is that StarCraft died this year . *NM* - 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM 733 Views
I don't mind the graphics in it - 12/09/2012 04:38:47 PM 1371 Views
Re: I don't mind the graphics in it - 13/09/2012 01:55:24 AM 1283 Views
I'm going to ask this here rather than start a new topic as its somewhat related. - 10/09/2012 07:42:32 PM 1328 Views
I remember Wisdom being important - 14/09/2012 04:28:23 AM 1258 Views
And it now has been delayed till Nov *NM* - 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM 723 Views
On another note, shame on all of you for not telling me Jon Irenicus is Ra's Al Ghul - 15/09/2012 04:19:21 AM 1363 Views
Among many many others. - 17/09/2012 06:45:33 PM 1347 Views

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