Games Messageboard: I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once by beetnemesis

!!!!! Kotagg - 07/09/2012 10:49:47 PM 1350 Views

are they created kindly or cruelly? Foxhead - 08/09/2012 05:34:36 PM 1313 Views

Lol! Realistically, if exaggerated to heroic levels. Kotagg - 09/09/2012 07:56:32 PM 1327 Views

I played the hell out of BG2, but only played BG1 once beetnemesis - 08/09/2012 06:07:15 AM 1453 Views

BGI is a lot more fun because a lot more challenging, IMHO. Joel - 08/09/2012 02:33:17 PM 1326 Views

*revelation* Foxhead - 08/09/2012 05:45:28 PM 1281 Views

You need not be behind them to assassinate (the high level thief ability.) Joel - 08/09/2012 06:04:31 PM 1317 Views

ahh yes i remember, every hit is a backstab for 30 seconds or something. Foxhead - 08/09/2012 07:07:12 PM 1384 Views

Right; it is pretty much an instakill, considering the multipliers at the level it becomes available Joel - 08/09/2012 09:03:47 PM 1274 Views

fireballs are so epic in BG1 Foxhead - 08/09/2012 05:41:34 PM 1325 Views

I disagree about it being the only good third level spell;lighting bolt and haste are also excellent Joel - 08/09/2012 06:26:08 PM 1430 Views

Yeah, I loved Lightning Bolt. Fanatic-Templar - 08/09/2012 06:44:59 PM 1257 Views

it was such a liability Foxhead - 08/09/2012 07:11:36 PM 1308 Views

Bouncing is what makes lightning bolts great, because you get to hit people more than once. Joel - 08/09/2012 08:59:10 PM 1243 Views

There's an unfortunate Wizard in the Firewine Bridge Ruins... Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2012 12:58:18 AM 1340 Views

Oops.

Joel - 09/09/2012 01:43:23 AM 1335 Views

that's why BG1 was so awesome. exploration=rewards Foxhead - 09/09/2012 09:09:22 AM 1305 Views

For sure; it made additional playthroughs fun even after beating the game. Joel - 09/09/2012 04:48:40 PM 1393 Views

Yeah, got to keep one of each on hand. Joel - 08/09/2012 08:57:31 PM 1215 Views

Also, FB and Skull Trap are also almost interchangeable until 10th level, but ST damage is uncapped. Joel - 09/09/2012 02:02:17 AM 1818 Views

Multi-player was actually pretty simple if you just used it to create your whole party. Joel - 08/09/2012 02:19:35 PM 1299 Views

well yeah, because there was no connection to figure out Foxhead - 08/09/2012 06:59:49 PM 1410 Views

Right; I was never a big multiplayer fan anyway, but customized parties were nice Joel - 08/09/2012 08:53:45 PM 1416 Views

Where's the fun in having a customized party and losing all the character interaction, though? Legolas - 09/09/2012 04:03:10 PM 1390 Views

I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. Joel - 09/09/2012 04:45:12 PM 1500 Views

Re: I dislike most of the BG NPCs anyway, so I do not much feel the lack. Foxhead - 10/09/2012 01:23:44 PM 1342 Views

Agreed. Joel - 11/09/2012 07:01:07 PM 1370 Views

Suggestion since you're not using the NPCs anyway... Legolas - 15/09/2012 11:34:28 PM 1406 Views

That is a good thought; I never played IWD. Joel - 16/09/2012 03:31:01 AM 1300 Views

Where did you think I just got it?

Legolas - 16/09/2012 04:39:43 PM 1247 Views

How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?

Joel - 17/09/2012 06:57:19 PM 1243 Views

Re: How would I know you just got a game released in the late nineties?

Fanatic-Templar - 17/09/2012 11:08:09 PM 1424 Views

I still like GURPS' character points best. Joel - 17/09/2012 11:40:12 PM 1295 Views

Heh, I'm not surprised. Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2012 01:47:55 AM 1288 Views

If you want to avoid hyperspecialization, avoid classes. Joel - 18/09/2012 07:36:43 AM 1505 Views

I've never played GURPS, so I don't know how its system works. Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2012 03:32:21 PM 1379 Views

I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. Joel - 19/09/2012 03:37:19 AM 1728 Views

Re: I recommend it, but it is a bear to run. Fanatic-Templar - 19/09/2012 08:35:24 AM 1339 Views

It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." Joel - 19/09/2012 10:58:31 PM 1384 Views

Re: It is the difference between "what if...?" and "whatever...." Fanatic-Templar - 20/09/2012 12:31:10 AM 1304 Views

AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. Joel - 24/09/2012 05:53:39 AM 1607 Views

Re: AD&D cannot avoid one-sided encounters without restricting epic characters to epic encounters. Fanatic-Templar - 24/09/2012 07:03:39 AM 1293 Views

Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. Joel - 24/09/2012 08:33:23 AM 1537 Views

Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. Fanatic-Templar - 24/09/2012 07:24:51 PM 1420 Views

My point is no one should be at any level. Joel - 25/09/2012 01:23:21 AM 1531 Views

Re: My point is no one should be at any level. Fanatic-Templar - 25/09/2012 03:41:42 AM 1544 Views

I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. Joel - 25/09/2012 05:16:49 AM 1341 Views

Re: I know no more about AD&D 3rd Ed. than I retain from skimming the book a few times in a store. Fanatic-Templar - 25/09/2012 06:05:39 PM 1458 Views

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I did not realize how awful classes were until liberated from them. Joel - 28/09/2012 12:49:14 AM 1413 Views

Re: Things are a little different if you are the GM, yes. Macharius - 24/09/2012 08:45:05 PM 1274 Views

I thought Yrrth a perfectly fine game world; obviously anything less generic requires some effort. Joel - 25/09/2012 12:14:09 AM 1327 Views

GURPS and TV Tropes are a natural fit, so I will throw in a link to their page on it. Joel - 19/09/2012 03:50:37 AM 1389 Views

I can't speak for IWD I, but II is okay on the story front so far. Legolas - 18/09/2012 06:36:16 PM 1243 Views

Nah, IWD I barely had any story at all. Fanatic-Templar - 18/09/2012 08:16:49 PM 1174 Views

agreed Foxhead - 19/09/2012 09:42:28 AM 1463 Views

I've still only played about 4 hours of BG1 Stephen - 08/09/2012 03:59:49 PM 1347 Views

If you have not yet, you should look into the Weidu mods. Joel - 08/09/2012 06:12:20 PM 1232 Views

But what's the point in playing the game if you don't use the NPCs? Fanatic-Templar - 08/09/2012 06:47:38 PM 1248 Views

agreed the NPCs are half the fun Foxhead - 08/09/2012 07:02:22 PM 1280 Views

Not having a bunch of potentially useful but AI ruined incompetents constantly fumbling. Joel - 08/09/2012 08:55:53 PM 1377 Views

Yeah, but optimising the whole group sounds ridiculously easy. Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2012 01:03:51 AM 1240 Views

Well, there are always mods for that. Joel - 09/09/2012 01:37:42 AM 1194 Views

For talking to pretty much anyone, really. Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2012 03:20:29 AM 1294 Views

True. Joel - 09/09/2012 03:46:24 AM 1299 Views

Well, I usually don't have thieves in my party. Fanatic-Templar - 09/09/2012 04:56:21 AM 1246 Views

there wasn't a good enough thief option in bg2/ToB Foxhead - 09/09/2012 09:15:21 AM 1181 Views

I noticed that also; another argument for creating a party via MP even if you move it back to SP. Joel - 09/09/2012 11:45:12 PM 1297 Views

storyline man! Foxhead - 10/09/2012 01:43:51 PM 1257 Views

I make my OWN storyline.

Joel - 10/09/2012 06:35:43 PM 1326 Views

Just how many thieves do you even need? Legolas - 10/09/2012 06:22:58 PM 1278 Views

You can get by with half a thief, yeah, but it forces you to forego maxing out some thief abilities. Joel - 10/09/2012 06:47:48 PM 1259 Views

that's why god made potions of master thievery stackable Foxhead - 11/09/2012 09:06:12 AM 1306 Views

There is that, but there are only so many inventory slots. Joel - 11/09/2012 07:00:03 PM 1276 Views

The stealth skills come in very handy though. Joel - 09/09/2012 04:11:40 PM 1274 Views

Any suggested parties for beginners? *NM* Roland00 - 10/09/2012 01:13:38 AM 703 Views

I plan to do custom characters for the other 6 slots Roland00 - 10/09/2012 01:42:41 AM 1236 Views

There are no "other" six slots - there are six slots, period.

Legolas - 10/09/2012 06:24:33 PM 1226 Views

well, absolute standard would be: Foxhead - 10/09/2012 01:35:15 PM 1325 Views

My own recommendation would be: Joel - 10/09/2012 07:36:04 PM 1255 Views

I am completely stoked about it. Panorphaeon - 10/09/2012 07:07:09 PM 1321 Views

TotSC made BGI a LOT more fun. Joel - 10/09/2012 07:46:03 PM 1205 Views

all the kits/races/dual wielding etc will be available in bgee Foxhead - 11/09/2012 09:02:35 AM 1224 Views

Ah; nice. Joel - 11/09/2012 06:57:14 PM 1350 Views

i'm not sure they were even state of the art at the time Foxhead - 12/09/2012 09:26:05 AM 1242 Views

Remember, BGI was released only about two years after Doom. Joel - 13/09/2012 12:05:11 AM 1304 Views

If by "two" you mean "five," then yes. DOOM was released in 1993. Ghavrel - 13/09/2012 03:22:58 PM 1269 Views

Ah, 1998. The golden year. Ocarina of Time. Starcraft. Half-Life. *NM* lord-of-shadow - 13/09/2012 04:16:21 PM 718 Views

Can't believe I forgot about HALF-LIFE. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/09/2012 09:06:55 PM 711 Views

That just reminds me of how sad it is that StarCraft died this year

. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 13/09/2012 11:55:28 PM 696 Views

Fair enough; I was thinking of Doom in terms of when I started playing it and Doom II (1995.) Joel - 14/09/2012 03:56:50 PM 1371 Views

I don't mind the graphics in it Stephen - 12/09/2012 04:38:47 PM 1300 Views

Good, me neither, but I have heard others criticize them. Joel - 12/09/2012 11:51:16 PM 1198 Views

I used the PS3 web browser as my primary browser for about 3 months Stephen - 13/09/2012 01:13:22 PM 1241 Views

*nods* I suspected as much, but had no first hand experience confirming it. Joel - 14/09/2012 04:03:15 PM 1296 Views

Re: I don't mind the graphics in it Fanatic-Templar - 13/09/2012 01:55:24 AM 1216 Views

I'm going to ask this here rather than start a new topic as its somewhat related. Stephen - 10/09/2012 07:42:32 PM 1256 Views

I remember Wisdom being important beetnemesis - 14/09/2012 04:28:23 AM 1181 Views

And it now has been delayed till Nov

*NM* Roland00 - 15/09/2012 03:52:41 AM 694 Views

On another note, shame on all of you for not telling me Jon Irenicus is Ra's Al Ghul Roland00 - 15/09/2012 04:19:21 AM 1285 Views

Among many many others. Joel - 17/09/2012 06:45:33 PM 1253 Views

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