My gaming group tried 4E and it split the group down the middle. Several players, mostly people who preferred non-D&D games and only played D&D to appease everyone else, really liked 4E and declared they would only play 4E from that point on if we wanted to play D&D (not coincidentally, they were also big WoW fans).
The rest of us didn't like 4E, though we spent about 3 months playing it and trying to make it work. We compromised by playing some other games for a while, but D&D had always been our default game and every time we went back to it things would bog down into edition wars. The other players weren't even willing to try Pathfinder. So in the end the group splintered apart.
Ironically, I don't think 4E is a particularly bad rules-set and take no pleasure from its failure. In fact, it would make an excellent rules-set for a MALAZAN RPG (where even common grunts can take on gods and survive). It just isn't really the same game as D&D, and throws too much out in an attempt to be relevant and modern.
The rest of us didn't like 4E, though we spent about 3 months playing it and trying to make it work. We compromised by playing some other games for a while, but D&D had always been our default game and every time we went back to it things would bog down into edition wars. The other players weren't even willing to try Pathfinder. So in the end the group splintered apart.
Ironically, I don't think 4E is a particularly bad rules-set and take no pleasure from its failure. In fact, it would make an excellent rules-set for a MALAZAN RPG (where even common grunts can take on gods and survive). It just isn't really the same game as D&D, and throws too much out in an attempt to be relevant and modern.
D&D 5th Edition... Hard to believe how many years this has been going.
09/01/2012 10:47:30 PM
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seriously? 4.0 hasn't even been out that long!
10/01/2012 12:28:09 AM
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4th Edition has been a commercial failure. 5th Edition wasn't originally due for several years yet.
10/01/2012 01:37:47 AM
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No, the future of D&D has resided with Pathfinder for a while. *NM*
10/01/2012 05:24:10 PM
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Re: No, the future of D&D has resided with Pathfinder for a while.
10/01/2012 08:09:11 PM
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Thanks to 4th Edition, sadly not.
10/01/2012 01:55:04 AM
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Re: D&D 5th Edition... Hard to believe how many years this has been going.
10/01/2012 08:23:59 AM
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I found this blog entry enlightening:
10/01/2012 01:41:12 PM
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Dunno about the "Old-School Revival," but Pathfinder is definitely pretty popular
10/01/2012 02:21:37 PM
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Re: Dunno about the "Old-School Revival," but Pathfinder is definitely pretty popular
10/01/2012 04:34:39 PM
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Re: Dunno about the "Old-School Revival," but Pathfinder is definitely pretty popular
11/01/2012 02:56:23 AM
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I can't wait to see the Edition Wars™ flare up again.
10/01/2012 02:55:27 PM
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True story:
10/01/2012 04:39:47 PM
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I felt like that was the whole goal of 4E...and I think that goal was accomplished.
10/01/2012 05:19:14 PM
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I think we'll probably see the pendulum swing back the other way a bit
11/01/2012 03:46:00 PM
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The last time I played an AD&D CRPG, it had THAC0.
10/01/2012 07:47:47 PM
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Baldur's Gate, woo!
11/01/2012 03:49:49 PM
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That was a Warrior trait, not a human one.
11/01/2012 07:18:09 PM
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That sounds insanely unintuitive. *NM*
11/01/2012 07:37:37 PM
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That's 2nd Edition.
11/01/2012 10:59:34 PM
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A fine example of a mechanic that seems lifted whole sale from GURPS 3rd ed.
25/01/2012 05:40:58 PM
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Incidentally, I am currently about halfway through replaying the BG series; great fun.
25/01/2012 06:41:53 PM
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Re: Incidentally, I am currently about halfway through replaying the BG series; great fun.
25/01/2012 07:52:29 PM
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Digging around online just now it looks that may have been a 1st ed. rule.
25/01/2012 08:40:13 PM
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AD&D represent! *throws up half-orc gang signs* *NM*
13/01/2012 01:50:06 AM
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Throwing up a half-eaten rat is not throwing up a gang sign... *NM*
13/01/2012 05:26:47 AM
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What about a half-eaten halfling?
13/01/2012 02:41:06 PM
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Been re-reading The Sleeping Dragon, have you?
25/01/2012 05:29:15 PM
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*hollas*
25/01/2012 05:30:45 PM
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GURPS is still in 4E.
25/01/2012 05:58:34 PM
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Thank God for small blessings; it is almost like those guys do not know HOW to milk a consumer base.
25/01/2012 07:02:44 PM
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They really don't, do they?
25/01/2012 09:12:07 PM
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They focused on rigorous rules that let people run games in the setting of their choice.
26/01/2012 08:59:59 AM
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I love Pathfinder and 4th edition. They're great, for different reasons. I'm excited to see 5th ed. *NM*
11/01/2012 04:58:28 PM
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