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Re: Yeah, you're right. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 25/10/2011 07:00:07 AM
I don't feel like it was as bad with those games though. They were earlier in the series and still fleshing out the lore. Plus they were RTSes, too, which don't rely on story as much as RPGs do.


You may be correct, but you would be surprised how much text I've written about the storyline of the StarCraft games. RTSes require less depth and complexity in their story than RPGs, but it still needs to be coherent and well structured, and when significant portions of the lore are retconned, it shows.

Also, I think WarCraft III's story is pretty terrible.

With World of Warcraft, they've been constructing an elaborate world for years and years now, and it's actually pretty mature at this point. I just feel it's awkward to pull another continent out of the hat and declare that it has been magically hidden until this moment. Seems way too generic.


I've never played World of WarCraft, but I did follow some of the lore back in the beginning because I was working on some WarCraft II projects and I was always quite dedicated to using existing lore to fit our needs when possible. That pretty much ended with The Burning Crusade though. Both of the races introduced made me want to facepalm so much.

On the one hand you've got Draenei retconned into Eredar who were in fact not responsible for corrupting Sargeras, but indeed the other way 'round, giving us a race of holy space aliens that have the name of the primitive inhabitants of Draenor who were subjugated and slaughtered by the Orcs.

And on the other, we've got High Elves who've left the Alliance because some racist human Marshall apparently outranked the Prince/King of the Elves, and because of that they've decided to abandon their allies to join Trolls (their ancestral enemies), Orcs (who burned and slaughtered their way through Quel'thalas during the Second War) and the Undead (who are directly responsible for the destruction of Quel'thalas, the desecration of the Sunwell and are commanded by the reanimated corpse of the elven general who perished fighting them). I assume there's an explanation for that somewhere in the game, but I stopped paying attention before I was ever told what it was.

Err. So yeah, sorry for the off-topic rant. But seriously, WarCraft's lore has been bizarre at times.
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Mists of Pandaria revealed as next World of Warcraft expansion. - 21/10/2011 10:19:20 PM 1340 Views
Druids could also fulfill any of the three roles. Just saying. - 21/10/2011 10:28:36 PM 877 Views
~facepalm~ - 21/10/2011 10:34:05 PM 923 Views
I don't have the details, but basically: you can have your pets fight, but only other pets. - 21/10/2011 10:42:55 PM 811 Views
Aha - 21/10/2011 10:50:08 PM 885 Views
Re: Aha - 21/10/2011 11:10:55 PM 1012 Views
BEST QUOTE EVER *NM* - 22/10/2011 02:52:59 AM 440 Views
Submit it then. *NM* - 22/10/2011 02:58:50 PM 403 Views
Paladins also have a tree for each - 22/10/2011 06:08:55 PM 878 Views
Wow, apparently I just fail at WoW classes. - 23/10/2011 03:56:34 AM 886 Views
Thank goodness you're not teaching them. - 23/10/2011 03:01:09 PM 748 Views
The funny thing is ... - 24/10/2011 09:18:13 PM 866 Views
This is the first expansion that I have absolutely no interest in playing. - 24/10/2011 06:43:33 PM 928 Views
Re: This is the first expansion that I have absolutely no interest in playing. - 24/10/2011 10:07:44 PM 1003 Views
Yeah, you're right. - 25/10/2011 04:56:52 AM 1002 Views
Re: Yeah, you're right. - 25/10/2011 07:00:07 AM 1125 Views
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The Blood Elves were introduced with the Frozen Throne (War3xpak)... - 25/10/2011 03:41:47 PM 834 Views
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Re: Yeah, you're right. - 25/10/2011 06:54:02 PM 848 Views
Granted, the one jerk is responsible for the slaughter of 90% of their race. *NM* - 25/10/2011 10:56:10 PM 362 Views
I meant Garithos. *NM* - 26/10/2011 05:30:10 AM 381 Views
I'm wondering how many panda-monks will have names from Kung Fu Panda. - 24/10/2011 07:59:15 PM 844 Views
Right? - 24/10/2011 08:31:12 PM 887 Views
Heh, I did the same. - 24/10/2011 10:09:47 PM 792 Views
Hates *glare* - 24/10/2011 11:43:06 PM 860 Views
that's fine...but how many variations of "Po" do you want to see? *NM* - 25/10/2011 12:06:26 AM 399 Views
It would not be any more stupid than the current WoW names *NM* - 25/10/2011 04:45:22 PM 368 Views
I think they should just make special characters against the naming rules. - 25/10/2011 05:25:24 PM 923 Views
I miss the days when Blizzard enforced their naming policy. *NM* - 25/10/2011 05:30:05 PM 379 Views
Looks like self-parody. Hardcore WoWers will likely resist. - 24/10/2011 08:53:06 PM 885 Views
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Actually, the challenge dungeons some hardcore players really interested - 24/10/2011 09:58:21 PM 873 Views
That sounds like what Guild Wars has in various forms. - 24/10/2011 10:51:03 PM 912 Views

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