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Hm. It depends on what you mean by "rewarded." beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 20/09/2011 04:15:18 PM
And what you mean by "gray."

Like you say, pretty much all games with "morality" subsystems reward you for playing an extreme.

However, in games that DON'T have explicit systems like that, you can do whatever you want.

So, like, in the original Deus Ex, you could be a good guy- try to always be nonlethal, pay for stuff, don't be a pervert, and so on. Or, if you wanted, you could be a good guy except when you didn't want to- be nonlethal unless it's a hassle, pay for what you have to and steal everything you can, go in the woman's bathroom.

I just started playing the new Deus Ex, and spent like 20 minutes breaking into about a dozen different offices, ransacking their drawers, and reading their emails. But I'm doing it to find a drug thief! Gray.


Another example would be something like Baldur's Gate II or Arcanum, where your reputation would easily get maxed out just from playing the game and killing evil, so a little shoplifting or petty cruelty now and again doesn't hurt anyone.



I get the impression that's not what you're thinking of, though.
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My companions! Lend me thine vast expertise - 20/09/2011 03:56:19 PM 1029 Views
Hm. It depends on what you mean by "rewarded." - 20/09/2011 04:15:18 PM 738 Views
No, not quite - 20/09/2011 04:29:42 PM 666 Views
I don't think I know anything that matches what you want. - 20/09/2011 04:39:22 PM 637 Views
You are a horrible human being. *NM* - 20/09/2011 08:24:05 PM 275 Views
- 28/09/2011 12:58:11 AM 662 Views
I thnk Fallout 3 gave you bonuses for being neutral. - 20/09/2011 04:52:11 PM 621 Views
That was the first that came to my mind, too. *NM* - 21/09/2011 09:46:11 AM 268 Views
P.S. re: "thine" - 20/09/2011 04:57:27 PM 577 Views
Damn, I knew it! - 20/09/2011 05:11:25 PM 639 Views
"Netural" isn't about picking "good and evil" choices. - 20/09/2011 04:59:42 PM 626 Views
It'd be pretty difficult to specifically reward you for being a 'gray' character. (Two games) - 20/09/2011 05:02:28 PM 761 Views
Take Knights of the Old Republic, for example - 20/09/2011 05:08:04 PM 685 Views
That's not so much an alignment as just metagaming the system. - 20/09/2011 09:27:49 PM 634 Views
thank you for phrasing that better than me *NM* - 20/09/2011 11:11:54 PM 278 Views
Maybe I didn't explain right - 20/09/2011 11:19:51 PM 582 Views
I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 03:00:32 AM 747 Views
of course, then you get into question of whether actions like that example are evil - 21/09/2011 04:03:03 AM 630 Views
Questions of morality are the great fun of philosophy . - 21/09/2011 05:24:50 AM 588 Views
Re: I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 06:23:11 PM 728 Views
Re: I'd say that's evil. - 21/09/2011 10:21:17 PM 741 Views
That's actually a pretty narrow view of Neutral when it comes to Alignment or Morality. - 21/09/2011 02:19:34 PM 624 Views
I thought I had allowed for what you said. - 21/09/2011 04:33:30 PM 561 Views
It's not a neutral outlook - 21/09/2011 06:27:27 PM 688 Views
See, what you're talking about IS in fact considered EVIL. - 21/09/2011 08:33:30 PM 620 Views
You might want to try The Witcher series. - 21/09/2011 05:16:05 AM 605 Views
I just played the first one... - 21/09/2011 02:14:13 PM 662 Views
Grey decisions are good but... - 21/09/2011 06:19:04 PM 705 Views
they don't reward it because, for the most part, they don't want you taking a middle ground. - 21/09/2011 07:10:48 PM 585 Views
Well that's just stupid. Tired of picking the 2 sides over and over *NM* - 21/09/2011 08:02:11 PM 311 Views
Neutrality is often boring or selfish. Good stories seldom have truly neutral protagonists. *NM* - 22/09/2011 06:27:05 PM 292 Views
Are you kidding? - 22/09/2011 06:54:19 PM 657 Views
That's chaotic good, not neutral. *NM* - 22/09/2011 10:36:28 PM 303 Views
I have an on-topic comment as well as a general rant on game morality systems. - 21/09/2011 06:43:21 PM 787 Views
if they wanted to make the conversation mechanics more complicated... - 21/09/2011 07:14:21 PM 703 Views
I don't care if it's complicated so long as it's clear. - 22/09/2011 08:27:46 PM 591 Views
I agree with this, actually. *NM* - 22/09/2011 09:17:23 PM 305 Views
I agree with that, too. *NM* - 22/09/2011 10:38:15 PM 290 Views

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