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It's not like I said they broke the game for me LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 11/04/2011 07:40:23 PM
Just that it irritated me. It's unnecessary. Population dynamics RARELY bother me. That's why it was so notable that they bothered me this time. Not to mention it's just bloody IRRITATING, not "fun", to be hit with wave after wave of thugs. I don't care much about combat. I'm in it for the story so when they waste my time with meaningless FLUFF combat, it's irritating.

There were many little problems with this game, along these lines. Illogical logistics, shamelessly repetitive dungeon maps, less "RPG" than "fetch-carry-kill-while-romancing". There were big problems, imo, too. The game had a lot of potential to involve the player in the politics of the city, but they more just had the PC take sides, which made people cranky or not. Politics? What was our "politics"? We declared a side but it didn't change anything. We couldn't shift the opinion of the people into ousting the knight commander on their own, we couldn't drive the knight commander into a mindless rage that began slaughtering every being in sight. The "politcking" in this game is blunt, clumsy and boring. The relationships are ham-handed and more about "appeasement" than actual relationship/character development. The story line is forked, but always converges again and is shallow and straight without many twists or turns. Pretty much the ONLY thing that shocked me was the blowing of the Chantry, but even then, it wasn't THAT shocking.

If it sounds like I have high standards, it's because I do. IMO, if amateurs can use the NWN toolset to make deep complex story lines, I don't expect any less out of professionals. Dance of the freakin' Rogues (that has entire paragraphs of dialogue dedicated to PORN) has a deeper storyline with more fun twists than this game.


For that matter, I don't think that complaining about the lack of depth (which I originally mentioned in my response title) is "petty". When you advertise a game as being about a character's rise to power in a city, one hopes for a bit of political maneuvering. There isn't any. There's side taking and killing people.

It's not that it's not PRETTY enough, or that they were lazy with their dungeons. Those are just little things on the list of "huge disappointments".

I'm sorry if I'm disappointed in a game that you are enjoying so much. I don't hate this game. But good money was spent on this game and I'm disappointed in it. I don't know WHY, but I keep expecting more out of the RPG industry. MY BAD.
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Bioware: Neglecting the Straight Male Gamer Kronin al'Sulc - 03/04/2011 11:15:30 PM 1568 Views
I think the OP is full of shit. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 01:23:28 AM 768 Views
Having Anders get pissed at you when you won't sleep with him is stupid. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 01:35:58 AM 801 Views
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yah, definitely. that's pretty much WHY I have low romance standards LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 11:58:50 PM 690 Views
*nm* Fox and Ravens - 04/04/2011 06:34:35 PM 686 Views
If that dude wasn't into Merrill, than he's a fag. *NM* Dan - 04/04/2011 01:28:55 AM 477 Views
They're neglecting the gamer demographic in DA2. Sexuality has nothing to do with it. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 01:33:45 AM 717 Views
yah they were pretty empty. The only reason I'm not irritated is that at least they're completed. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 01:50:54 AM 753 Views
Don't worry; you'll be able to get it as overpriced DLC installments! *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 03:03:24 AM 342 Views
YES!!! That just makes me feel so much better!!! *NM* LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 03:34:12 AM 297 Views
Re: yah they were pretty empty. [...] Macharius - 04/04/2011 01:37:47 PM 761 Views
So, not a fan? Dannymac - 04/04/2011 06:15:21 AM 792 Views
No. I haven't even finished because I'm so bored. Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 08:49:14 AM 717 Views
They could have done a LOT more with all the in-city strife. LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 02:32:11 PM 708 Views
I don't feel bad paying for it, solely cause I never paid for DA1 *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 10:01:43 PM 390 Views
Re: They could have done a LOT more with all the in-city strife. Dannymac - 08/04/2011 04:43:24 PM 812 Views
As far as excuses for developer laziness go, that's a pretty poor one. Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 12:02:23 AM 657 Views
Yah this is what I was talking about. The repeat of tunnel systems in totally unrelated areas. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:32:11 PM 308 Views
It's not an excuse. Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:36:45 PM 746 Views
Re: It's not an excuse. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 07:06:11 PM 694 Views
No, it's not that they keep coming... LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:38:30 PM 675 Views
Re: No, it's not that they keep coming... Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:41:30 PM 695 Views
...did you even read my main post in this thread? Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 07:08:31 PM 692 Views
It's not like I said they broke the game for me LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 07:40:23 PM 741 Views
Something I wonder then: Why is it called Dragon Age "2"? Zalis - 04/04/2011 03:06:46 PM 730 Views
Pretty much. EA likes to churn out franchises. *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 07:41:57 PM 311 Views
Huh? Dannymac - 08/04/2011 04:59:49 PM 739 Views
Penny Arcade had a good post on this topic recently beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 09:39:21 PM 1128 Views
Point of fact: in DA: O you're fighting the Fifth Blight, not the First. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 10:10:17 PM 811 Views
Yeah seriously, the Fifth Blight was pretty lame in retrospect beetnemesis - 11/04/2011 04:01:03 AM 717 Views
That's pretty much true. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 04:08:48 AM 672 Views
Wow, yeah, you're right. Dannymac - 11/04/2011 06:43:40 PM 745 Views
I've actually liked the combat in most Bioware games beetnemesis - 04/04/2011 10:46:12 PM 808 Views
I think the fact that most NPC possibilities go either way is kind of weird. Zalis - 04/04/2011 05:41:04 AM 852 Views
Zevran was really the main one that would hit on you no matter what. Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 06:13:04 AM 892 Views
saying Zevran is kind of a slut... LadyLorraine - 04/04/2011 06:14:54 AM 676 Views
On a general note, what annoys me... Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2011 07:19:32 AM 699 Views
In fairness to Bioware, in this game you get different bonuses for "rivalry." *NM* Ghavrel - 04/04/2011 08:50:29 AM 336 Views
Oh, that's nice. Fanatic-Templar - 04/04/2011 09:45:21 PM 705 Views
I will let you know when the game comes down to less than 20 bucks... MightyYT - 04/04/2011 07:50:06 AM 666 Views
Yea, the times I do play this game just gives me a longing for DA *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 04/04/2011 09:58:03 PM 407 Views
That's just bullshit Fox and Ravens - 04/04/2011 06:42:14 PM 692 Views
i bet he still initiated all his romances Foxhead - 05/04/2011 10:42:40 PM 692 Views
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