In need of graphics card advice. (edit with update)
Macharius Send a noteboard - 29/10/2010 04:01:37 PM
Much of this past week has been spent on newegg.com and tomshardware.com in search of a replacement for my now-ancient Radeon X1950XTX. In my price category of ~$100, I settled on the Radeon HD 5670 (Redwood). Being fortunate, I was able to purchase one last night for $101.change after tax in a local store.
The good news is that it will run WoW-Cataclysm on stock Ultra settings (I haven't even tried the DX11 beta features). The bad news is that it does so poorly. Performance is better on Good settings, but still not what I consider acceptable in open areas with terrain. I haven't tried StarCraft 2 yet, or Fallout 3... because let's face it, my primary game is WoW
The advice I am seeking is:
-I know it's obvious, but I haven't updated the drivers yet (by then, it was getting late last night and I didn't want to mess with it anymore). How much performance gain could I expect to see when I do so later today?
-Should I use the included software utility to overclock the card's processor and memory? If so, by how much? I am tempted to ramp it up as long as the temperature remains under control, but I don't have any experience overclocking anything even if it's as simple as moving a slidebar and don't want to damage it and be forced to buy a whole new card in a few months.
And if nothing else helps much,
-I am extremely reluctant to spend any more money, but should I just return the 5670 and pony up an extra $100 for a newer/better card that will actually last me a year and a half to two years? It seems wrong to me to buy a nominally-new card for $100 and not be able to play recent titles at better than medium settings.
EDIT:
Last night I updated the drivers from the AMD site (not ASUS, the card manufacturer) and the there was some improvement but I was still unhappy with the performance in WoW. I turned it on this morning, and all of a sudden everything worked great. Settings are on Ultra, with my only concession being to put shadows on the second lowest setting - even with DX11 enabled. SC2 runs everything maxed on Ultra, though the frame rate may be lower than some people prefer but bumping it down one level doesn't show much loss in quality while running a teensy bit more smoothly.
The good news is that it will run WoW-Cataclysm on stock Ultra settings (I haven't even tried the DX11 beta features). The bad news is that it does so poorly. Performance is better on Good settings, but still not what I consider acceptable in open areas with terrain. I haven't tried StarCraft 2 yet, or Fallout 3... because let's face it, my primary game is WoW
The advice I am seeking is:
-I know it's obvious, but I haven't updated the drivers yet (by then, it was getting late last night and I didn't want to mess with it anymore). How much performance gain could I expect to see when I do so later today?
-Should I use the included software utility to overclock the card's processor and memory? If so, by how much? I am tempted to ramp it up as long as the temperature remains under control, but I don't have any experience overclocking anything even if it's as simple as moving a slidebar and don't want to damage it and be forced to buy a whole new card in a few months.
And if nothing else helps much,
-I am extremely reluctant to spend any more money, but should I just return the 5670 and pony up an extra $100 for a newer/better card that will actually last me a year and a half to two years? It seems wrong to me to buy a nominally-new card for $100 and not be able to play recent titles at better than medium settings.
EDIT:
Last night I updated the drivers from the AMD site (not ASUS, the card manufacturer) and the there was some improvement but I was still unhappy with the performance in WoW. I turned it on this morning, and all of a sudden everything worked great. Settings are on Ultra, with my only concession being to put shadows on the second lowest setting - even with DX11 enabled. SC2 runs everything maxed on Ultra, though the frame rate may be lower than some people prefer but bumping it down one level doesn't show much loss in quality while running a teensy bit more smoothly.
This message last edited by Macharius on 30/10/2010 at 02:21:48 PM
In need of graphics card advice. (edit with update)
29/10/2010 04:01:37 PM
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That's the card in my new iMac. Well, according to Apple, at least...
29/10/2010 04:45:19 PM
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A 9800GT is roughly equivalent to a 5670. *NM*
29/10/2010 04:58:07 PM
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I've no problem deferring to someone more familiar w/ recent cards.
29/10/2010 05:44:20 PM
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Your card isn't an ati hd5670, it is about 75% as fast as an 8800gt
01/11/2010 01:34:47 AM
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ATI Mobility HD5730 is almost the same as the desktop ATI HD5670 but it is closer to ATI HD5570
01/11/2010 01:32:01 AM
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One thing you didn't mention is what resolution you're trying to run at.
29/10/2010 05:07:38 PM
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System specs:
29/10/2010 05:39:19 PM
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Glad to hear it's working. That kind of performance is much more what I'd expect from a 5670. *NM*
31/10/2010 01:45:45 AM
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That didn't stop me from getting the 5770 so that I would have a "buffer zone" of peformance gains
31/10/2010 01:11:35 PM
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The HD5670 is meant to be a casual gamer card
31/10/2010 02:23:45 PM
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Nice to know that someone selling these actually knows what they're talking about.
01/11/2010 01:42:31 PM
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Re: Nice to know that someone selling these actually knows what they're talking about.
01/11/2010 09:29:38 PM
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If you do return the card, these are the cards I would recommend (links inside to newegg)
01/11/2010 02:32:23 AM
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Excellent post
01/11/2010 05:06:10 PM
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And FPS per dollar isn't the only important stat
02/11/2010 03:14:10 AM
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Re: And FPS per dollar isn't the only important stat
02/11/2010 12:52:46 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I agree the HD5770 is an awesome card
02/11/2010 06:14:16 PM
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Re: Don't get me wrong, I agree the HD5770 is an awesome card
02/11/2010 09:19:44 PM
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Do you already have a computer or are you building a new one? If so what are the specs? And ....
03/11/2010 10:49:35 AM
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Well
03/11/2010 08:31:11 PM
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If you are not going to overclock, you should really consider this computer
04/11/2010 12:28:44 AM
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Slickdeals thread claims it's no longer available. Was a good deal, though. *NM*
04/11/2010 01:28:09 PM
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Re: If you are not going to overclock, you should really consider this computer
04/11/2010 06:02:57 PM
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