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Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. Inigo Montoya Send a noteboard - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM
You may be right about reform having to start now, too. I'm rather torn on the issue, myself - the bill as passed is not that bad in itself, but it *is* bad, even disastrous, if it's the only bill that's going to be passed for the next five or ten years. So if the polarization and ugliness that this bill has sown is such that Congress waits years before trying to pass additional reforms, I'm afraid it wasn't worth that. As such, I still think a more bipartisan bill should've been possible.


Yea, that's the thing. This bill doesn't do nearly enough on it's own to truly change or save the system financially. But I have to think it makes it a hell of alot easier going foward to make more impactful reforms down the line now that the initial hurdle has been cleared. Especially if it can be explained in terms to the public that the figures (like Klein uses that graph to illustrate) are only a drop in the bucket of our total healthcare spending. When people see that this bill hasn't taken away any "freedom" as the crazy, loud right would have us believe and has given almost everyone access to care when they're sick, I think further reform will be much more palatable to the people down the road. Especially if some of the cost-saving pilot programs included in this bill are actually coming up with real results that can be shown demonstrably to save money.
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No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 08:22:27 AM 1329 Views
Meh - 22/03/2010 09:07:27 AM 678 Views
Re: Meh - 22/03/2010 01:53:43 PM 667 Views
I know what you mean. I love hearing that the "majority" are against this. - 22/03/2010 01:57:15 PM 793 Views
surveys are crap anyways. - 22/03/2010 01:59:39 PM 623 Views
That's ignorance speaking. - 22/03/2010 02:02:46 PM 648 Views
well yah. Sorry, I wasn't meaning to say surveys as a whole are nonsense - 22/03/2010 02:09:42 PM 581 Views
Some are a plurality, some are a majority.... - 22/03/2010 04:01:56 PM 712 Views
But most of them with a high/low don't go into enough detail - 22/03/2010 09:24:29 PM 739 Views
A question? - 23/03/2010 01:11:07 AM 661 Views
I accept that there are situations where leaders must go against popular opinion - 23/03/2010 02:53:00 AM 708 Views
on the other hand *edited stupid spelling error* - 23/03/2010 03:09:47 AM 825 Views
On a certain level I do agree with you - 23/03/2010 05:14:24 AM 618 Views
I was thinking about this after posting - 23/03/2010 12:12:17 PM 626 Views
Ahahahahahahahaha - 23/03/2010 12:57:17 PM 775 Views
why? *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:37:00 PM 326 Views
Because "populous" is not a noun in English. *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:42:16 PM 320 Views
This. - 23/03/2010 03:46:25 PM 684 Views
damn you phonetics. - 23/03/2010 03:50:33 PM 938 Views
As Emo Philips would say - 23/03/2010 04:32:52 PM 704 Views
I always laugh when I see someone say people are "retarted" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:51:46 PM 394 Views
"Get a life, morans!" *NM* - 23/03/2010 03:55:27 PM 319 Views
I think this is one of them - 23/03/2010 12:49:35 PM 1104 Views
A step in the wrong direction. - 22/03/2010 10:38:31 AM 805 Views
didn't realize it had - 22/03/2010 11:49:36 AM 644 Views
I am happy for it - 22/03/2010 11:55:10 AM 633 Views
The Bill passed? - 22/03/2010 12:27:36 PM 728 Views
I think with the saturation coverage it has been getting people are just worn out *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:27:59 PM 344 Views
hollah that. *NM* - 22/03/2010 01:58:47 PM 281 Views
Yes. - 22/03/2010 02:38:03 PM 648 Views
Re: No posts on the bill passing? - 22/03/2010 01:39:14 PM 660 Views
I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 01:43:07 PM 841 Views
Re: I chose to read about it first at the NYT, then the WSJ, then the Economist. - 22/03/2010 02:01:07 PM 645 Views
The Bill won't get repealed. Whatever happens in November. - 23/03/2010 12:17:21 AM 655 Views
There are 18 incumbent Dem Senate seats; 41+18<67. - 29/03/2010 11:15:29 AM 650 Views
I am worried. The official reports show that it will actually erase some debt. But . . . - 22/03/2010 01:39:26 PM 762 Views
I think reform had to start now. - 22/03/2010 02:27:11 PM 834 Views
That's a good column. - 22/03/2010 02:44:56 PM 734 Views
Yea, he's going to be adding to it all day, trying to explain the various facets of the bill. - 22/03/2010 03:05:03 PM 767 Views
I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:20:54 PM 659 Views
Re: I think the problem highlight what I don't like about this bill - 22/03/2010 03:33:31 PM 632 Views
Let's be realistic here at least.... - 22/03/2010 04:16:23 PM 648 Views
I hope your house is built on fimrer foundations then your reasoning - 22/03/2010 04:25:49 PM 655 Views
I'm not worried, there are lots of ways to pay for the bill. - 22/03/2010 05:36:39 PM 577 Views
You should worry about cost control (AKA the only real reason for healthcare reform to begin. ) - 23/03/2010 07:02:24 AM 767 Views
bingo - 24/03/2010 03:45:48 AM 792 Views
Next question: WTF do we do about it? - 24/03/2010 04:00:39 AM 661 Views
sadly probably not a damned thing... - 24/03/2010 04:20:45 AM 641 Views
I worry the day is coming when the Bastille is stormed. - 29/03/2010 11:06:31 AM 731 Views
It is a good start - 22/03/2010 03:01:08 PM 623 Views
Re: It is a good start - 22/03/2010 04:13:28 PM 624 Views
Heh - 22/03/2010 04:21:22 PM 685 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 04:32:30 PM 642 Views
Re: Heh - 22/03/2010 08:25:05 PM 700 Views
Sorry, I was out seizing the means of production. *NM* - 22/03/2010 07:43:19 PM 279 Views
You should delve the debate before getting excited. - 23/03/2010 07:22:36 AM 736 Views
I really like what GRR Martin wrote in his blog. - 23/03/2010 09:55:11 AM 752 Views
I agree with him - 23/03/2010 12:14:47 PM 666 Views
I would say it is rather weak point - 23/03/2010 01:12:43 PM 637 Views
Erm... - 23/03/2010 01:39:58 PM 743 Views
I am pleasantly surprised - 23/03/2010 04:14:52 PM 589 Views
Exceptions? - 24/03/2010 05:08:17 AM 593 Views
I haven't been following it too closely - 23/03/2010 02:10:39 PM 786 Views

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