I think it would be more accurate as a comparison to say "Everyone's a sinner, so your account that no one was murdered in your history books seems implausible"
Did you read the article I linked to or are you just assuming I was implying outright distortion of historical facts in children's textbooks is A-Okay?
Did you read the article I linked to or are you just assuming I was implying outright distortion of historical facts in children's textbooks is A-Okay?
that just because a given goal (in this case perfect objectivity in history books) is impossible to attain completely, it doesn't mean that one should give up on the goal entirely, or refuse to even make the attempt.
I'm rather unclear on why his comment is felt necessary though, since saying history should strive to be accurate is like saying science should strive to figure things out or clergy should seek to preach their faith. So essentially me say it's oxymoronic and him replying that we should strive for impartiality is sort of like my saying 'science doesn't know it all' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should stop trying' or my saying 'no man can hope to know the mind of God' and him saying 'that doesn't mean we should all become atheists'. It just seems so out of place unless he assumed I was saying propaganda and distortion in history was fine which is why I queried and asked about the link, which happens to be a long rant by a centrist democrat about people flavoring kid's history books for political reasons. Mine is a cynical but true comment on history and on the NYT, which certainly knows about this and has chosen to highlight Texas when a lot of other states are doing the same thing under what I can only assume is the intentional equivalent of saying "The KKK is against gun control" an essentially transparent comment.
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Texas Approves Curriculum Revised by Conservatives
13/03/2010 12:02:15 AM
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"Impartial Historical Account" is an oxymoron
13/03/2010 12:21:20 AM
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So is "a sinless life," but that doesn't justify murder. *NM*
14/03/2010 12:22:16 AM
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Strange choice of analogies...
14/03/2010 12:17:03 PM
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I could be wrong, but I think his point was simply...
14/03/2010 03:53:23 PM
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I think it was that it just seems too out of place
14/03/2010 04:14:55 PM
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I dunno, you didn't elaborate much on your oxymoron statement.
14/03/2010 04:29:04 PM
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It didn't really seem something that needed elaborating
14/03/2010 05:20:33 PM
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It's about time.
13/03/2010 01:17:25 AM
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Don't forget interned German-Americans in BOTH world wars. *NM*
13/03/2010 02:47:25 AM
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Oh I haven't, but being Italian myself it's an issue close to my heart. *NM*
13/03/2010 04:41:19 AM
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Yes, because this article is all about presenting the truth in an unbiased manner *NM*
13/03/2010 11:02:20 AM
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I'm assuming Art. 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 is banned from Texan history lessons, then?
13/03/2010 12:26:41 PM
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And, along similar lines, both Article VII of the US Constitution and Missouri v. Holland. *NM*
14/03/2010 12:26:10 AM
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I would assume the Treaty of Tripoli 1797 would outside of the scope of a Texas history lesson
16/03/2010 07:54:53 PM
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Do the states just teach their own history, as opposed to that of what-was-then-the-USA? *NM*
16/03/2010 11:57:06 PM
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They teach both...at least at the college level. U.S. history and Texas History were requirements.. *NM*
17/03/2010 05:38:46 AM
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Texas history or Texas government?
18/03/2010 06:53:15 PM
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Good question....I don't remember if it was history or govt to be honest. *NM*
18/03/2010 07:59:10 PM
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When does revisionist history descend to the level of mere hypocrisy? I weep for my country.
15/03/2010 04:16:25 AM
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calling Zavala a city is a bit of a stretch don't you think?
15/03/2010 05:39:03 PM
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Seguin's a city, or at least town; Zavala is a county.
15/03/2010 09:00:54 PM
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Zavalla is a town as well and city is a bit of stretch for Seguin
15/03/2010 10:23:41 PM
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Fair enough, just trying to make clear I was speaking about municipality and county, respectively.
29/03/2010 03:49:30 PM
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See the problem is the argument is total BS
29/03/2010 05:27:53 PM
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Don't you guys essentially list all of the handful guys who fought at the Alamo already, anyway? *NM*
29/03/2010 08:55:34 PM
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There was 190 or so people there so no they are not all in the textbook
31/03/2010 05:31:41 PM
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Do you have any examples of where they are not teaching the truth?
15/03/2010 05:42:27 PM
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I think it is what they are leaving out that is worrisome.
15/03/2010 06:58:38 PM
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I don't see anything sayting they are leaving that out
15/03/2010 08:26:50 PM
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We were talking about this last night
15/03/2010 11:38:02 PM
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Still not sure I see a problem
16/03/2010 04:58:50 PM
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This thread is indeed making me wonder how textbooks are used in the US...
16/03/2010 05:05:13 PM
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