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agree. *NM* Avendesora Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 06:49:01 PM
Sets a very bad precedent.

Think on this. This means that ANY person who is a part of any culture or country anywhere which has a more restrictive law on ANYTHING than the US can now apply for political asylum?

Look long enough and hard enough that applies to virtually everyone in every country in the world. They should all be allowed asylum, bypassing the normal immigration process? I think not.

I don't have any particular problem with them immigrating or being accepted as immigrants. That's fine. Granting them aslyum is too much. Are we going to start granting asylum to Brits who want to own guns? After all, the right to keep and bear arms is inscribed right in the Constitution - the right to homeschool is not. That's clearly a 'more important' right. By precedent anyone who wanted to own a firearm in Britain could then apply for asylum? That's nutsy.

As to homeschooling, provided that there are tests to show ability to understand the basic concepts and precepts of society, then homeschooling is fine. However, if there is curriculum that is part of the school system which is required, then it must also be required of homeschoolers. Yes that would include such basic social curriculum as history, geography, culture etc. and where it is required Sex ed as well (it should be required everywhere - the basics of biology and reproduction should be known to everyone as that's just biology).

So, fine on them being in the US (I'd be fine with them being here in Canada too) but a big thumbs down on the judge for allowing it to be an asylum issue. Their safety wasn't at risk, therefore, no asylum.
*MySmiley*

I believe all news and research that supports my opinion, and dismiss the rest as conspiracy and lies.
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Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 02/03/2010 10:30:01 PM 1402 Views
Looks like a win-win situation to me. - 02/03/2010 11:01:22 PM 654 Views
Exactly - 03/03/2010 08:54:10 AM 618 Views
yah...but...but.... - 03/03/2010 01:13:31 PM 512 Views
Germany does have a history of getting rid of people it doesn't like *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:08:37 PM 393 Views
Yawn. At least beckstcw was joking when he invoked Godwin's law below. I hope. *NM* - 03/03/2010 02:10:18 PM 359 Views
That is a load of crap - 03/03/2010 02:53:02 PM 434 Views
uhm, how would Germany be offending the US? - 03/03/2010 02:56:52 PM 392 Views
I meant in general not in this specfic case - 03/03/2010 02:59:01 PM 344 Views
ahh mk *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:09:39 PM 378 Views
Um. - 03/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 282 Views
But our religious beliefs and belief in allowing religious freedom is fair game? - 03/03/2010 03:09:48 PM 277 Views
Yes? - 03/03/2010 03:40:30 PM 264 Views
If you made fun of the Native Americans I would be offended - 03/03/2010 03:46:05 PM 504 Views
It's actually quite the opposite. - 03/03/2010 03:57:19 PM 484 Views
and I would say they trying to fix intolerance with more intolerance - 03/03/2010 04:13:49 PM 271 Views
That was probably the stupidest thing I ever saw you write - 03/03/2010 03:28:39 PM 432 Views
You were the one who said good riddance - 03/03/2010 03:43:24 PM 297 Views
It's the usual story of American ideology and European pragmatism. - 03/03/2010 03:52:51 PM 458 Views
exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:56:11 PM 397 Views
Yes, because I won't miss them much. - 03/03/2010 03:55:29 PM 482 Views
well said - 03/03/2010 06:34:18 PM 474 Views
I think it's outrageous they'd fine people for that - 02/03/2010 11:07:57 PM 659 Views
Re: Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 03/03/2010 01:09:23 AM 787 Views
The socialization thing is mostly garbage - 03/03/2010 02:32:19 AM 661 Views
Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 02:41:14 AM 455 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:12:48 AM 432 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:34:33 AM 677 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 04:34:30 AM 671 Views
*shrugs* I said it was anecdotal. I have no hard figures, only experiences. - 03/03/2010 03:28:29 AM 455 Views
The operative word IS mostly - 03/03/2010 04:33:20 AM 629 Views
'Mostly' is all that matters - 03/03/2010 05:46:01 AM 659 Views
Uhm, socialization is incredibly important. - 03/03/2010 06:03:30 AM 633 Views
Yes, but you don't need to be taught to do it - 03/03/2010 06:47:06 AM 593 Views
cats aren't pack or herd animals - 03/03/2010 06:53:02 AM 577 Views
Something of an inside joke, sorry - 03/03/2010 07:41:50 AM 620 Views
I'm a homeschooling parent. - 03/03/2010 07:09:03 PM 603 Views
LOL, we seem well represented on this site - 03/03/2010 10:02:16 PM 691 Views
I think you may be missing some things - 03/03/2010 02:48:27 PM 709 Views
Re: I think you may be missing some things - 05/03/2010 12:16:37 AM 792 Views
I was homeschooled through grade 12, and my mom has done pro bono legal work for HSLDA. - 03/03/2010 02:20:38 AM 583 Views
I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 04:42:21 AM 721 Views
Re: I agree that it can be a very good option for some families - 03/03/2010 05:16:17 AM 550 Views
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Re: It depends on the public school. - 03/03/2010 05:45:07 AM 595 Views
"done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 05:58:26 AM 417 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:14:43 AM 731 Views
Re: "done right" is not always the case - 03/03/2010 06:31:04 AM 642 Views
Well let's talk stats then. - 03/03/2010 06:55:14 AM 605 Views
please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:11:19 AM 529 Views
Re: please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:28:41 AM 575 Views
you missed my point. - 03/03/2010 01:10:26 PM 595 Views
You seem to be ignoring the matter of qualified teachers. - 03/03/2010 01:29:01 PM 558 Views
Your comments on public school educations have rather limited relevance to other countries, though. - 03/03/2010 09:53:30 AM 659 Views
+ ^ *NM* - 03/03/2010 01:11:04 PM 347 Views
While I support homeschooling, this is ridiculous. - 03/03/2010 04:48:40 AM 717 Views
Meh. - 03/03/2010 05:20:50 AM 641 Views
one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:32:13 AM 660 Views
Re: one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:58:48 AM 459 Views
No, I think i will nitpick. - 03/03/2010 06:11:44 AM 576 Views
This is getting off track and wasting time. - 03/03/2010 06:26:36 AM 626 Views
I'm not even certain it's 100% legal. - 03/03/2010 06:34:44 AM 413 Views
Yes, but we can't argue abuse of law. - 03/03/2010 06:51:23 AM 531 Views
I only used Mexicans because I'm from Arizona - 03/03/2010 07:04:29 AM 627 Views
I think I have the gist of it, - 03/03/2010 07:17:40 AM 554 Views
we haven't heard anything about their beliefs for me to think they're stupid. - 03/03/2010 02:54:25 PM 635 Views
According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung... - 03/03/2010 03:38:13 PM 562 Views
they don't have private christian schools in germany? - 03/03/2010 03:54:07 PM 511 Views
Not many, I dare say, but a few probably. *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:59:11 PM 368 Views
Say what? - 03/03/2010 09:38:40 AM 506 Views
Being able raise your kids by your beliefs is a frivolous matter? - 03/03/2010 03:21:23 PM 432 Views
Germany is not saying "you can't raise your kids by your beliefs" - 03/03/2010 03:31:01 PM 557 Views
It's not a recent law, and supposedly other German families have moved to France and the UK. - 03/03/2010 03:45:56 PM 657 Views
figured that. - 03/03/2010 03:58:57 PM 564 Views
I think that would fly in very face of political assylum - 03/03/2010 04:12:48 PM 590 Views
Yes, but they did not need political asylum. - 03/03/2010 04:28:16 PM 625 Views
how is that different then other political refuges we allow in? - 03/03/2010 04:55:14 PM 518 Views
I believe Legolas linked an article - 03/03/2010 04:57:09 PM 500 Views
I never saw the link - 03/03/2010 05:08:21 PM 415 Views
I'm not sure if they offered "formal" assurances or some such - 03/03/2010 05:21:54 PM 337 Views
Compared to not being able to feed your kids, yes, it is. - 03/03/2010 03:42:58 PM 437 Views
yes but we don't grant political assylum for being hungry - 03/03/2010 04:34:23 PM 520 Views
no we don't. - 03/03/2010 04:50:31 PM 395 Views
Do you have a better system? - 03/03/2010 05:05:42 PM 683 Views
Immigration processes could certainly use some reform - 03/03/2010 05:32:22 PM 487 Views
The system sucks, big government typically does not function well - 03/03/2010 05:48:25 PM 417 Views
we probably would all be better off... - 03/03/2010 07:27:28 PM 532 Views
good because Texas is taken - 03/03/2010 07:47:46 PM 546 Views
No, true, that was about the illegal immigrants. - 03/03/2010 09:53:18 PM 639 Views
Absolutely. - 03/03/2010 09:32:41 AM 617 Views
Doesn't matter why, but all parents should have the right to homeschool..... - 03/03/2010 04:48:57 AM 453 Views
there are far worse faults for a country to have *NM* - 03/03/2010 05:14:11 AM 346 Views
That whole thing is pretty silly - 03/03/2010 12:18:45 PM 688 Views
Re: socialising. - 03/03/2010 06:13:49 PM 664 Views
And then there are secular people like myself, who - 03/03/2010 06:44:13 PM 604 Views
I think I'd do that too, if I had the patience. - 03/03/2010 06:45:20 PM 468 Views
*agree* - 03/03/2010 07:41:56 PM 653 Views
That is the catagory I'm in. - 03/03/2010 07:46:12 PM 510 Views
Re: probably more likely - 04/03/2010 12:19:37 AM 662 Views
I am opposed to homeschooling but believe it should be a legal option. - 03/03/2010 02:32:34 PM 605 Views
I think you make a good point here - 03/03/2010 05:22:59 PM 640 Views
but...but...parents can't educate their children outside of school!! - 03/03/2010 05:40:30 PM 577 Views
I don't agree with them I just support their right to be wrong - 03/03/2010 06:04:11 PM 646 Views
The statistics are flawed, as I've noted above - 03/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 494 Views
Your views on this are not fact-driven - 03/03/2010 09:13:07 PM 656 Views
No, what you're saying is that my answer isn't driven by STATISTICS. - 03/03/2010 10:36:50 PM 586 Views
Granted, but there is no obvious source for bias - 03/03/2010 10:57:19 PM 509 Views
Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 03/03/2010 11:51:17 PM 417 Views
Re: Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 04/03/2010 12:16:29 AM 637 Views
You mean aside from the fact that you are already arguing about it? - 04/03/2010 12:14:02 AM 419 Views
Yes, I mentioned this in my reply to Tom, see below... - 04/03/2010 12:19:42 AM 558 Views
Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:21:41 AM 484 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:37:06 AM 881 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 09:39:38 AM 595 Views
Umm Massachusetts did have slavery in 1717 - 03/03/2010 02:55:25 PM 510 Views
Wow....so this got the board going. A question for everyone... - 03/03/2010 06:02:57 PM 702 Views
I think it is incumbent on the state to show that kids are being in some way harmed - 03/03/2010 06:07:13 PM 611 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 06:25:43 PM 720 Views
I never said there should be no limits on what parents should be able to do - 03/03/2010 06:38:53 PM 667 Views
What you said was: - 03/03/2010 06:51:26 PM 657 Views
I think it's safe to say teaching your kids to be little sociopaths qualifies as harm. - 03/03/2010 09:17:48 PM 440 Views
I think so too - 03/03/2010 10:46:41 PM 666 Views
Yes they do. Provided... - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 544 Views
One of the reasons... - 03/03/2010 07:40:54 PM 618 Views
that is fair enough - 03/03/2010 07:51:31 PM 516 Views
Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM 558 Views
I agree completely with this. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:42:01 PM 370 Views
agree. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:49:01 PM 238 Views
You just skip the part where they have to show they are being persecuted - 03/03/2010 06:54:20 PM 672 Views
"Persecution" can be a matter of opinion, though. - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 646 Views
officers will track down kids ditching school here. - 03/03/2010 07:17:57 PM 712 Views
I'm not sure what they do in Canada - 03/03/2010 10:49:00 PM 561 Views
Agrees - 03/03/2010 06:54:59 PM 534 Views
New Cosmic Powers of the admins - 03/03/2010 06:52:57 PM 445 Views
It is the Power of the Ben™ *NM* - 03/03/2010 08:48:11 PM 365 Views
*walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 07:52:09 PM 647 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 09:25:46 PM 412 Views
What, no defending Germany today? *NM* - 03/03/2010 10:03:01 PM 370 Views
Even I need a day off *NM* - 04/03/2010 01:02:17 AM 357 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 10:33:24 PM 460 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 11:02:27 PM 634 Views
Am I recalling correctly that you know some German? - 03/03/2010 11:07:00 PM 577 Views
Sorry, nope. - 04/03/2010 09:14:49 PM 422 Views
Oh. Ah well. - 04/03/2010 09:23:11 PM 567 Views
One thing all of us homeschooled kids are missing is... - 04/03/2010 01:53:22 AM 512 Views

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