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Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. SilverWarder Send a noteboard - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM
Sets a very bad precedent.

Think on this. This means that ANY person who is a part of any culture or country anywhere which has a more restrictive law on ANYTHING than the US can now apply for political asylum?

Look long enough and hard enough that applies to virtually everyone in every country in the world. They should all be allowed asylum, bypassing the normal immigration process? I think not.

I don't have any particular problem with them immigrating or being accepted as immigrants. That's fine. Granting them aslyum is too much. Are we going to start granting asylum to Brits who want to own guns? After all, the right to keep and bear arms is inscribed right in the Constitution - the right to homeschool is not. That's clearly a 'more important' right. By precedent anyone who wanted to own a firearm in Britain could then apply for asylum? That's nutsy.

As to homeschooling, provided that there are tests to show ability to understand the basic concepts and precepts of society, then homeschooling is fine. However, if there is curriculum that is part of the school system which is required, then it must also be required of homeschoolers. Yes that would include such basic social curriculum as history, geography, culture etc. and where it is required Sex ed as well (it should be required everywhere - the basics of biology and reproduction should be known to everyone as that's just biology).

So, fine on them being in the US (I'd be fine with them being here in Canada too) but a big thumbs down on the judge for allowing it to be an asylum issue. Their safety wasn't at risk, therefore, no asylum.
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Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 02/03/2010 10:30:01 PM 1507 Views
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ahh mk *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:09:39 PM 423 Views
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Re: Homeschooling: German Family Gets Political Asylum in U.S. - 03/03/2010 01:09:23 AM 916 Views
The socialization thing is mostly garbage - 03/03/2010 02:32:19 AM 783 Views
Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 02:41:14 AM 578 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:12:48 AM 559 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 03:34:33 AM 805 Views
Re: Yep, exactly. - 03/03/2010 04:34:30 AM 793 Views
*shrugs* I said it was anecdotal. I have no hard figures, only experiences. - 03/03/2010 03:28:29 AM 550 Views
The operative word IS mostly - 03/03/2010 04:33:20 AM 746 Views
'Mostly' is all that matters - 03/03/2010 05:46:01 AM 788 Views
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cats aren't pack or herd animals - 03/03/2010 06:53:02 AM 702 Views
Something of an inside joke, sorry - 03/03/2010 07:41:50 AM 739 Views
I'm a homeschooling parent. - 03/03/2010 07:09:03 PM 726 Views
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to jump on the "I was homeschooled and I have social skills" bandwagon... - 03/03/2010 06:27:05 AM 1117 Views
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Re: please do not get me started on statistis. - 03/03/2010 07:28:41 AM 699 Views
you missed my point. - 03/03/2010 01:10:26 PM 715 Views
You seem to be ignoring the matter of qualified teachers. - 03/03/2010 01:29:01 PM 679 Views
Your comments on public school educations have rather limited relevance to other countries, though. - 03/03/2010 09:53:30 AM 777 Views
+ ^ *NM* - 03/03/2010 01:11:04 PM 393 Views
While I support homeschooling, this is ridiculous. - 03/03/2010 04:48:40 AM 832 Views
Meh. - 03/03/2010 05:20:50 AM 761 Views
one year in a public school - 03/03/2010 05:32:13 AM 813 Views
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No, I think i will nitpick. - 03/03/2010 06:11:44 AM 710 Views
This is getting off track and wasting time. - 03/03/2010 06:26:36 AM 744 Views
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Yes, but we can't argue abuse of law. - 03/03/2010 06:51:23 AM 643 Views
I only used Mexicans because I'm from Arizona - 03/03/2010 07:04:29 AM 769 Views
I think I have the gist of it, - 03/03/2010 07:17:40 AM 665 Views
we haven't heard anything about their beliefs for me to think they're stupid. - 03/03/2010 02:54:25 PM 755 Views
According to the Süddeutsche Zeitung... - 03/03/2010 03:38:13 PM 675 Views
they don't have private christian schools in germany? - 03/03/2010 03:54:07 PM 636 Views
Not many, I dare say, but a few probably. *NM* - 03/03/2010 03:59:11 PM 417 Views
Say what? - 03/03/2010 09:38:40 AM 620 Views
Being able raise your kids by your beliefs is a frivolous matter? - 03/03/2010 03:21:23 PM 556 Views
Germany is not saying "you can't raise your kids by your beliefs" - 03/03/2010 03:31:01 PM 679 Views
It's not a recent law, and supposedly other German families have moved to France and the UK. - 03/03/2010 03:45:56 PM 768 Views
figured that. - 03/03/2010 03:58:57 PM 653 Views
I think that would fly in very face of political assylum - 03/03/2010 04:12:48 PM 725 Views
Yes, but they did not need political asylum. - 03/03/2010 04:28:16 PM 737 Views
how is that different then other political refuges we allow in? - 03/03/2010 04:55:14 PM 659 Views
I believe Legolas linked an article - 03/03/2010 04:57:09 PM 627 Views
I never saw the link - 03/03/2010 05:08:21 PM 540 Views
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no we don't. - 03/03/2010 04:50:31 PM 510 Views
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good because Texas is taken - 03/03/2010 07:47:46 PM 659 Views
No, true, that was about the illegal immigrants. - 03/03/2010 09:53:18 PM 758 Views
Absolutely. - 03/03/2010 09:32:41 AM 737 Views
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there are far worse faults for a country to have *NM* - 03/03/2010 05:14:11 AM 390 Views
That whole thing is pretty silly - 03/03/2010 12:18:45 PM 812 Views
Re: socialising. - 03/03/2010 06:13:49 PM 773 Views
And then there are secular people like myself, who - 03/03/2010 06:44:13 PM 720 Views
I think I'd do that too, if I had the patience. - 03/03/2010 06:45:20 PM 590 Views
*agree* - 03/03/2010 07:41:56 PM 772 Views
That is the catagory I'm in. - 03/03/2010 07:46:12 PM 642 Views
Re: probably more likely - 04/03/2010 12:19:37 AM 780 Views
I am opposed to homeschooling but believe it should be a legal option. - 03/03/2010 02:32:34 PM 743 Views
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but...but...parents can't educate their children outside of school!! - 03/03/2010 05:40:30 PM 688 Views
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The statistics are flawed, as I've noted above - 03/03/2010 07:07:11 PM 597 Views
Your views on this are not fact-driven - 03/03/2010 09:13:07 PM 775 Views
No, what you're saying is that my answer isn't driven by STATISTICS. - 03/03/2010 10:36:50 PM 704 Views
Granted, but there is no obvious source for bias - 03/03/2010 10:57:19 PM 633 Views
Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 03/03/2010 11:51:17 PM 550 Views
Re: Again, I'm not saying it applies to everyone - 04/03/2010 12:16:29 AM 786 Views
You mean aside from the fact that you are already arguing about it? - 04/03/2010 12:14:02 AM 539 Views
Yes, I mentioned this in my reply to Tom, see below... - 04/03/2010 12:19:42 AM 672 Views
Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:21:41 AM 592 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 12:37:06 AM 1002 Views
Re: Fair enough - 04/03/2010 09:39:38 AM 709 Views
Umm Massachusetts did have slavery in 1717 - 03/03/2010 02:55:25 PM 638 Views
Wow....so this got the board going. A question for everyone... - 03/03/2010 06:02:57 PM 824 Views
I think it is incumbent on the state to show that kids are being in some way harmed - 03/03/2010 06:07:13 PM 742 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 06:25:43 PM 843 Views
I never said there should be no limits on what parents should be able to do - 03/03/2010 06:38:53 PM 793 Views
What you said was: - 03/03/2010 06:51:26 PM 795 Views
I think it's safe to say teaching your kids to be little sociopaths qualifies as harm. - 03/03/2010 09:17:48 PM 563 Views
I think so too - 03/03/2010 10:46:41 PM 795 Views
Yes they do. Provided... - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 661 Views
One of the reasons... - 03/03/2010 07:40:54 PM 749 Views
that is fair enough - 03/03/2010 07:51:31 PM 629 Views
Hmmph. Inappropriate action on the part of the judge who allowed them to stay. - 03/03/2010 06:22:08 PM 690 Views
I agree completely with this. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:42:01 PM 420 Views
agree. *NM* - 03/03/2010 06:49:01 PM 279 Views
You just skip the part where they have to show they are being persecuted - 03/03/2010 06:54:20 PM 808 Views
"Persecution" can be a matter of opinion, though. - 03/03/2010 07:04:46 PM 793 Views
officers will track down kids ditching school here. - 03/03/2010 07:17:57 PM 828 Views
I'm not sure what they do in Canada - 03/03/2010 10:49:00 PM 706 Views
Agrees - 03/03/2010 06:54:59 PM 657 Views
New Cosmic Powers of the admins - 03/03/2010 06:52:57 PM 566 Views
It is the Power of the Ben™ *NM* - 03/03/2010 08:48:11 PM 408 Views
*walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 07:52:09 PM 766 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 09:25:46 PM 540 Views
What, no defending Germany today? *NM* - 03/03/2010 10:03:01 PM 416 Views
Even I need a day off *NM* - 04/03/2010 01:02:17 AM 402 Views
Re: *walks in, looks around* - 03/03/2010 10:33:24 PM 593 Views
Interesting - 03/03/2010 11:02:27 PM 759 Views
Am I recalling correctly that you know some German? - 03/03/2010 11:07:00 PM 709 Views
Sorry, nope. - 04/03/2010 09:14:49 PM 512 Views
Oh. Ah well. - 04/03/2010 09:23:11 PM 678 Views
One thing all of us homeschooled kids are missing is... - 04/03/2010 01:53:22 AM 638 Views

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