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doesn't offend me, I am agnostic random thoughts Send a noteboard - 22/02/2010 06:50:41 PM
People comment those acts and sometimes they use religion to justify them but the communist proved that people are capable of sufficient maiming and killing with religion. Religion can and does do a lot of good of in the world. If you just look at the Judaea Christian value system there are definitely parts of it that need to be tossed out but most of those tend to be culture then anything else.

Sorry but the idea that we can somehow make the world better by killing religion as misguided as the idea that we can make the world better by having only one "true" religion. What real changes to you think could be accomplished if we did manage to kill religion? Do you think people would actually start treating each other better if the didn’t believe in god?


Unfortunately, no, I don't think it would solve anything. In an [my] ideal world, it could be done and would be beneficial. However, some people need to believe there is some higher power in order to not do evil, or to make their existence more worthwhile...to feel like there is something lasting place to spend eternity.

We had this debate one day in one of my ancient Greek classes. Our professor was saying that all morality and values stem from Christianity, and not the cultures which came before its inception as the dominant religion. I was incredulous, as he was a professor...of ancient history and Classics...yet he said the Greeks did not practice such common sense things as "don't kill your neighbor because he might retaliate," "don't be adulterous because you might end up raising someone else's kid," and "hey! don't steal...you might ruin the economy if you do!" for any moral reasons, and that Christianity didn't derive these things from said cultures.

The reason why I bring this up is because I believe in humanity's ability to perpetuate itself, using such common principles as the aforementioned, without the need to quantify or authorize them as necessities from some higher power. I help my fellow human being because I desire to, and I hope some day when I need help there will be someone willing to return the favor. I don't do a bunch of favors for ulterior motives or to get roll over points with Jesus and the apostles in order to get onto the VIP access to enter the Heaven dance club.
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Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 19/02/2010 03:41:04 AM 945 Views
Re: Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 19/02/2010 05:45:41 AM 426 Views
Heh...praying that an area doesn't become more religious. *NM* - 19/02/2010 06:25:54 AM 185 Views
the irony in seeing only Christianity as religious, yet praying to "the gods" - 19/02/2010 12:32:49 PM 520 Views
....I hope you realize that I was joking. *NM* - 19/02/2010 07:49:09 PM 180 Views
Yeah, I'd say that fits in with my observations - 19/02/2010 06:56:26 AM 410 Views
it's probably a culture thing - 19/02/2010 02:25:15 PM 384 Views
lol, it's only fish on Fridays during Lent (no meat). - 19/02/2010 05:56:34 PM 434 Views
Doh, that's what I meant - 19/02/2010 07:03:52 PM 461 Views
I find that very unsurprising. - 19/02/2010 12:48:38 PM 456 Views
Re: I find that very unsurprising. - 19/02/2010 01:52:01 PM 474 Views
Oh, good. *NM* - 19/02/2010 03:17:03 PM 170 Views
These things are often cyclical. - 19/02/2010 06:00:29 PM 397 Views
Re: These things are often cyclical. - 19/02/2010 07:55:33 PM 395 Views
There was a(t least one) large wotmania thread on it. - 01/03/2010 02:30:44 AM 428 Views
hardly surprising with a pop culture that attacks and ridicules religious thoughts and values - 19/02/2010 08:20:35 PM 423 Views
Re: hardly surprising with a pop culture that attacks and ridicules religious thoughts and values - 19/02/2010 08:44:16 PM 416 Views
horseshit - 19/02/2010 09:16:40 PM 493 Views
Agreed - 19/02/2010 09:30:39 PM 412 Views
Re: Agreed - 19/02/2010 09:38:46 PM 371 Views
Re: horseshit - 19/02/2010 09:35:48 PM 443 Views
(that last bit was supposed to be taken as ridiculous, and not an offensive statement towards you) - 19/02/2010 09:37:11 PM 439 Views
doesn't offend me, I am agnostic - 22/02/2010 06:50:41 PM 429 Views
Re: horseshit - 21/02/2010 08:11:49 PM 356 Views
Yeah, not everyone's faith has rollover points. Some people have Verizon or Sprint religions. - 21/02/2010 10:02:43 PM 408 Views
Re: - 21/02/2010 11:26:41 PM 394 Views
Oh, I wasn't refering to you saying rollover points - 22/02/2010 12:01:52 AM 397 Views
I don't think a moral compass is the sole benefit of religion - 22/02/2010 07:13:08 PM 381 Views
Re: Study: Young Americans less religious than their parents - 21/02/2010 11:29:56 PM 475 Views
Organized religion is oxymoronic in many ways. - 01/03/2010 03:06:18 AM 557 Views

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