Ya'll realize dude ended his suicide note by quoting Marx, right?
Joel Send a noteboard - 19/02/2010 04:42:01 AM
More and more "republicans" seem to be increasingly disillusioned with the entire federal government. I put "republicans" in quotes because....well even though it's the party many of the people align themselves with, they seem to be disillusioned with both parties pretty equally.
The amount of political unrest in the country right now may not rival the middle east....but it's more than I've seen in my almost 30 years by a long long ways. Truth be told if I could emigrate I'd be happy to do so. I may not always agree with the political systems of other countries, but I will say that there are a lot of other countries that seem to have a much brighter future than the U.S. right now.
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The amount of political unrest in the country right now may not rival the middle east....but it's more than I've seen in my almost 30 years by a long long ways. Truth be told if I could emigrate I'd be happy to do so. I may not always agree with the political systems of other countries, but I will say that there are a lot of other countries that seem to have a much brighter future than the U.S. right now.
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There's a reason they're disillusioned with both parties: Neither of them works for the people. That's more of the alienation I learned about in HS Econ while the rest of the class was marking time till graduation. He no longer felt he was represented in his own country, that his voice was heard or his opinions, his feelings, his very life, mattered. In such a state, it's easy to see everyone as a foe and the concept of "innocent bystanders" disappears. I doubt he recognized that most if not all of the people he was trying to murder (and by the Grace of God, he doesn't seem to have killed anyone) were people just like him trying to survive despite the system as best they could. Which means the system got to him, too, by the way.
If you read what the guy said, it seems pretty clear to me his problem wasn't "big government" in itself, but unaccountable government serving the interests of a powerful (and wealthy) few. Not that he was expected to pay taxes, or they were too high, or even (IIRC) that much of it was wasted, but that he was expected to finance corporate malfeasance and greed with his taxes, and the same laws that allow corporations to pay little or no taxes don't apply to the rest of us. I'm a little disturbed by how much of what he said has come from my lips in times past. There are very few problems to be solved by killing though, and even if one feels (which I very much don't) it's time for violent revolution, trying to murder a bunch of random strangers isn't the way to do it. That is very much NOT what the Founding Fathers did, and they exhausted every other possible means of redressing their grievances before they ventured with extreme reluctance into the realm of war.
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He made his motivation chillingly clear.
19/02/2010 03:22:28 AM
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It's a growing sentiment in TX and other "red" states....
19/02/2010 04:03:00 AM
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Ya'll realize dude ended his suicide note by quoting Marx, right?
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I had to drive by there yesterday...
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I have to respond.
19/02/2010 04:38:40 AM
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one point
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With subsidies and tax breaks some pay negative taxes despite healthy profits.
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Re: one point
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bankruptcy is hardly a bailout
19/02/2010 06:48:02 AM
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besides...
20/02/2010 12:58:55 AM
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A LOT of things are different depending on whether a corporation or human being does them.
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Welcome to the fray.
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Not to endorse Joel's love declaration to socialism, but you're not exactly one to talk re: strawmen
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There is a huge difference between greed and motivation, drive, and ingenuity.
20/02/2010 01:07:12 AM
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Then fucking go already, and stop trying to impose this dream society on the rest of us
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When you work for the IRS you take your chances.
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are you fucking kidding me?
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Yes, because you are so easy, and I am out of shoe-throwing range.
19/02/2010 02:46:27 PM
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Re: Yes, because you are so easy, and I am out of shoe-throwing range.
19/02/2010 03:00:56 PM
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are you real person?
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It can be hard to tell.
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As charming as ever I see. *NM*
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Look, I think Dragonsoul take the Muslim thing too far occasionally
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Weak is all hes got.
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In denial much?
21/02/2010 01:38:31 AM
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Again, if you think thereligionofpeace.com is a serious source then you are simply sad.
22/02/2010 01:06:55 AM
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Is it?
20/02/2010 10:26:16 PM
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Exactly. Besides that I don't take his source as a source at all.
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Well that's quite selective.
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Whoopty-fucking-doo!
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