I don't think he's mischaracterizing anything so much as responding to Jens' point directly.
Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 10/02/2010 04:54:55 PM
Perhaps we all need food insurance. If healthcare-on-demand is a "right" then surely food is, too.
If someone can't afford to buy food of course they should be helped out by the state. Same with healthcare
But that isn't what Jens said. That isn't what a great many of the people at this site say. They find it crazy that anyone pays anything directly for their own healthcare. My point is, food and housing are at least as basic "rights" as healthcare. Yet, I don't think hardly anyone at this site thinks that giving higher taxes to the government and then having them allocate food and housing would be a good thing. Yet, for some reason, that seems to be the most widely held idea as a solution to healthcare at this site.
The solution most commonly put forth, in my experience, is single-payer, in which the government serves as the sole, nonprofit health insurance provider. People still pay for their own health insurance if they can, but the government is the middleman between them and health care providers, instead of for-profit companies. In some cases, the government will insure that necessary treatment is given without the patient being charged.
There's a big difference between this and the government actually funding all medical care through taxes, which seems to be what you're saying.
Jens said he thought people shouldn't have to worry about paying for health care when they're sick, when the fact of the matter is that we all have to pay for things that we need that we would rather not have to pay for. If my furnace goes out in the middle of the winter, I have to pay the several thousand dollars to replace it even though I would really rather use that money for more fun things. Things happen, sometimes very expensive things, and we have to do what we have to do to pay for them.
If you are from Betelgeuse, please have one of your Earth friends read what I've written before you respond. Or try concentrating harder.
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I have a medical costs question too...
10/02/2010 03:08:14 PM
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If you look at your policy
10/02/2010 03:27:15 PM
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I'm all for being a control freak when I can.
11/02/2010 03:07:37 PM
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One other thing you should be aware of
11/02/2010 03:25:07 PM
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You might want to call your insurer and talk to them about who to see.
10/02/2010 03:34:53 PM
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Do you think an actual person would have better referrals than the website?
11/02/2010 03:14:01 PM
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I don't think we'll be able to do you much good.
10/02/2010 03:36:57 PM
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For CU, that list seems to be really outdated.
11/02/2010 12:13:06 AM
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and as far as the frustrating part...
11/02/2010 01:58:39 AM
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Hmmm.
11/02/2010 03:17:50 PM
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Most doctor's offices
11/02/2010 03:32:55 PM
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Mine was a little as well.
11/02/2010 12:46:45 PM
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It was funny, because most of them were medical-ish, but I got a bariatric center, a therapist...
11/02/2010 02:25:03 PM
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I just know a worried person should not pay a damn cent...
10/02/2010 03:53:19 PM
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Why? Should I not have to think about how to pay for my dinner tonight?
10/02/2010 04:23:31 PM
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The Dole or hardship funds should help people who can't afford food
10/02/2010 04:28:49 PM
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I agree, the needy should be helped.
10/02/2010 04:32:45 PM
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I don't agree with your characterization of commonly proposed healthcare solutions.
10/02/2010 04:42:06 PM
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I don't think he's mischaracterizing anything so much as responding to Jens' point directly.
10/02/2010 04:54:55 PM
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As a response to Jens' point, it works, but he used very general language.
10/02/2010 07:37:20 PM
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Furnace? Health? Erm...
10/02/2010 08:04:03 PM
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no
10/02/2010 08:40:12 PM
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I didn't like the example
10/02/2010 08:46:24 PM
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I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs
10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM
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Have you never looked at the boatloads of information that your insurer has surely sent to you? *NM*
10/02/2010 04:19:09 PM
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I've never been sent a thing from them...
10/02/2010 04:28:57 PM
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I believe, although I no longer am covered by Blue Cross, that most tests are covered.
10/02/2010 11:28:34 PM
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I have no idea regarding insurance
11/02/2010 10:32:11 AM
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Yes, and just in general, it's good to have a GP. But they are elusive creatures. Like unicorns. *NM*
11/02/2010 03:33:24 PM
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Your doctor's office should be able to answer most questions for you
11/02/2010 02:36:10 PM
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