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I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs Mark Send a noteboard - 10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM
Perhaps we all need food insurance. If healthcare-on-demand is a "right" then surely food is, too.


If someone can't afford to buy food of course they should be helped out by the state. Same with healthcare


But that isn't what Jens said. That isn't what a great many of the people at this site say. They find it crazy that anyone pays anything directly for their own healthcare. My point is, food and housing are at least as basic "rights" as healthcare. Yet, I don't think hardly anyone at this site thinks that giving higher taxes to the government and then having them allocate food and housing would be a good thing. Yet, for some reason, that seems to be the most widely held idea as a solution to healthcare at this site.


You do have to pay a nominal or reduced fee to access healthcare in most European countries. Only those on very low incomes have the entire cost covered by the state. The state does buy housing to provide for those who can't afford their own. The state retains ownership of the property, but people have somewhere to live as tennents.

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I have a medical costs question too... Lupine - 10/02/2010 03:08:14 PM 778 Views
If you look at your policy Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 03:27:15 PM 434 Views
I'm all for being a control freak when I can. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:07:37 PM 394 Views
One other thing you should be aware of Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:25:07 PM 403 Views
Yes... that's very useful information. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:46:17 PM 233 Views
I was afraid of that Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:52:49 PM 358 Views
You might want to call your insurer and talk to them about who to see. Joel - 10/02/2010 03:34:53 PM 353 Views
Do you think an actual person would have better referrals than the website? Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:14:01 PM 407 Views
I do, and sorry for the delay. Joel - 15/02/2010 02:11:55 PM 395 Views
I don't think we'll be able to do you much good. nossy - 10/02/2010 03:36:57 PM 376 Views
For CU, that list seems to be really outdated. Lupine - 11/02/2010 12:13:06 AM 343 Views
I didn't read all the replies before I posted mine.Woops. *NM* Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:54:59 AM 200 Views
and as far as the frustrating part... Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:58:39 AM 225 Views
Hmmm. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:17:50 PM 217 Views
Most doctor's offices Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:32:55 PM 385 Views
But it's embarrassing. <whine> Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:50:40 PM 342 Views
I'm sure Sareitha Sedai - 11/02/2010 03:58:29 PM 344 Views
Sareitha pretty much covered it! Avendesora - 11/02/2010 04:53:25 PM 384 Views
Mine was a little as well. nossy - 11/02/2010 12:46:45 PM 368 Views
It was funny, because most of them were medical-ish, but I got a bariatric center, a therapist... Lupine - 11/02/2010 02:25:03 PM 217 Views
I just know a worried person should not pay a damn cent... ironclad - 10/02/2010 03:53:19 PM 407 Views
This is frustrating. (Meant as reply to main thread/everyone.) Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:05:57 PM 364 Views
Oops, I replied in the wrong place. Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:07:15 PM 238 Views
Well Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 04:10:12 PM 343 Views
Re: Well Avendesora - 11/02/2010 02:13:08 AM 210 Views
Why? Should I not have to think about how to pay for my dinner tonight? LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:23:31 PM 352 Views
The Dole or hardship funds should help people who can't afford food Mark - 10/02/2010 04:28:49 PM 258 Views
I agree, the needy should be helped. LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:32:45 PM 341 Views
I don't agree with your characterization of commonly proposed healthcare solutions. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 04:42:06 PM 389 Views
I don't think he's mischaracterizing anything so much as responding to Jens' point directly. Sareitha Sedai - 10/02/2010 04:54:55 PM 442 Views
<3 damookster - 10/02/2010 05:06:29 PM 256 Views
As a response to Jens' point, it works, but he used very general language. Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 07:37:20 PM 221 Views
Furnace? Health? Erm... ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:04:03 PM 244 Views
no damookster - 10/02/2010 08:40:12 PM 234 Views
I didn't like the example ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:46:24 PM 348 Views
that's why I pay for health insurance *NM* damookster - 10/02/2010 08:58:06 PM 101 Views
So do we? *NM* Legolas - 10/02/2010 09:13:28 PM 191 Views
exactly damookster - 10/02/2010 09:22:14 PM 279 Views
Precisely ironclad - 10/02/2010 08:00:39 PM 220 Views
There are several good reasons for that. Legolas - 10/02/2010 04:48:59 PM 377 Views
I see no problem with the state paying the vast majority of medical costs Mark - 10/02/2010 04:53:57 PM 443 Views
I understand you're not being serious, but... Dreaded Anomaly - 10/02/2010 04:37:12 PM 243 Views
Have you never looked at the boatloads of information that your insurer has surely sent to you? *NM* LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:19:09 PM 98 Views
I've never been sent a thing from them... Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:28:57 PM 376 Views
Do you or your parents hold the policy? LiterateDog - 10/02/2010 04:35:00 PM 227 Views
My parents do. Lupine - 10/02/2010 04:44:29 PM 409 Views
policy info.... damookster - 10/02/2010 04:52:29 PM 336 Views
Thank you! Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:25:42 PM 214 Views
I believe, although I no longer am covered by Blue Cross, that most tests are covered. Ghavrel - 10/02/2010 11:28:34 PM 302 Views
My experience with them has been generally positive too. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:27:50 PM 218 Views
In my case... Avendesora - 11/02/2010 01:53:32 AM 244 Views
*nods* Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:32:44 PM 330 Views
I have no idea regarding insurance smaug - 11/02/2010 10:32:11 AM 368 Views
Yes, and just in general, it's good to have a GP. But they are elusive creatures. Like unicorns. *NM* Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:33:24 PM 194 Views
Your doctor's office should be able to answer most questions for you random thoughts - 11/02/2010 02:36:10 PM 208 Views
Once I get one. Lupine - 11/02/2010 03:36:19 PM 222 Views
Well that should be your first step random thoughts - 11/02/2010 04:49:00 PM 270 Views
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