My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist?
Brian Send a noteboard - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM
Or my perspective as someone who was raised as a Roman-Catholic, confirmed into the church, studied basically every major religion in the world, who spent the first 18 years of his life as a practicing member of the church and still has close ties to his very religious family? Cause I mean....based on my past I'd say that I have a fairly good view of both sides of the argument.
I don't hold people's religious beliefs against them, and I don't respect anyone any less because of their beliefs. Some people need their religion and it's something that gives them a lot of satisfaction. I respect that, and I'm happy for them.
I understand what you're trying to say, but self-worth has nothing to do with why I would think that an omnipotent being would care about a random person or especially care if a random creature believes in it. It is inconceivable to me that a higher power would care about something so silly as what one person thinks anywhere.
As far as the violence stuff goes, all I really have to say is that more atrocities are committed in the name of god or because of religion than just about anything else that I can think of. The people who perpetuate violence in the name of religion are a minority, and I also accept that...but it doesn't change my perspective that religion causes an inordinate amount of strife and rather than being a uniting force in the world it tends to be divisive instead.
Finally, I never said anything about considering the people that believe in god to be stupid or hicks, or anything of the sort. They simply hold a belief that in my mind is incomprehensible. I view the world in an extremely logical manner, and what I can see feel, or prove is what I find to be real. It may be an extremely cynical view of the world, but it is what it is. I have never seen something that says to me that there is a higher power, I have never seen a single piece of evidence that would even lead me to possibly believe that it is proof of a higher power. I have never felt deep in my heart/soul/whatever that feeling of faith or anything of the sort. On the other hand I've seen plenty of evidence that my view of the world is a correct one. Am I exchanging the god of the bible for one named science and logic? Perhaps I am, but I'm ok with that, because science is tangible.
Do I fear that when I die that I will cease to exist? No, I really don't. I'm ok with accepting that I am a collection of memories and experiences, and that when my body ceases functioning that whatever it is that I am is going to be gone as well.
I have my own theories as to why religion is so pervasive, but I'm not really here to debate my belief on that, because that will offend people, and that isn't my goal. I respect people's religious beliefs and like I said, I think no less of them because of them. If it makes people happy, then I'm glad that they get something from it.
I don't hold people's religious beliefs against them, and I don't respect anyone any less because of their beliefs. Some people need their religion and it's something that gives them a lot of satisfaction. I respect that, and I'm happy for them.
I understand what you're trying to say, but self-worth has nothing to do with why I would think that an omnipotent being would care about a random person or especially care if a random creature believes in it. It is inconceivable to me that a higher power would care about something so silly as what one person thinks anywhere.
As far as the violence stuff goes, all I really have to say is that more atrocities are committed in the name of god or because of religion than just about anything else that I can think of. The people who perpetuate violence in the name of religion are a minority, and I also accept that...but it doesn't change my perspective that religion causes an inordinate amount of strife and rather than being a uniting force in the world it tends to be divisive instead.
Finally, I never said anything about considering the people that believe in god to be stupid or hicks, or anything of the sort. They simply hold a belief that in my mind is incomprehensible. I view the world in an extremely logical manner, and what I can see feel, or prove is what I find to be real. It may be an extremely cynical view of the world, but it is what it is. I have never seen something that says to me that there is a higher power, I have never seen a single piece of evidence that would even lead me to possibly believe that it is proof of a higher power. I have never felt deep in my heart/soul/whatever that feeling of faith or anything of the sort. On the other hand I've seen plenty of evidence that my view of the world is a correct one. Am I exchanging the god of the bible for one named science and logic? Perhaps I am, but I'm ok with that, because science is tangible.
Do I fear that when I die that I will cease to exist? No, I really don't. I'm ok with accepting that I am a collection of memories and experiences, and that when my body ceases functioning that whatever it is that I am is going to be gone as well.
I have my own theories as to why religion is so pervasive, but I'm not really here to debate my belief on that, because that will offend people, and that isn't my goal. I respect people's religious beliefs and like I said, I think no less of them because of them. If it makes people happy, then I'm glad that they get something from it.
Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial
27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM
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I think that its a fantastic idea...
27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM
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agreed... somewhat.
27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM
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See, that's the debate here...
27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM
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depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells.
27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM
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You make baby Allah cry. *NM*
27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM
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was it the dog comparison?
27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM
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yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions
28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM
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Shall we be technical....
27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM
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And since when are you a trained eye?
27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM
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If there's a chance the mother might die...
27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM
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What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be.
27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM
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Which is why I'm against elective abortion
27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM
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Then we are in accord.
27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM
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I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad
27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM
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Go ahead and pay for one....
27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM
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how does atheism take anything away?
27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM
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LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement.
27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM
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Who says?
27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM
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You're not "open" to anything.
27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM
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I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity.
27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM
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Personally speaking
27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM
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But notice your perspective Brian...
27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM
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My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist?
28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM
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Tolerance much?
27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM
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Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it.
27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM
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Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel
28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM
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Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic
27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM
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Well there is a difference between...
27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM
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The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not.
27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM
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I don't think it is the same thing
27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM
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Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM*
29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM
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The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS.
27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM
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And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning.
27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM
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"the buggery agenda"
27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM
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I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda.
*NM*
27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM
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You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness"
27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM
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I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space
27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM
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Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it.
27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM
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That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity
28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM
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But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM*
27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM
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*brain explodes*
27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM
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are your sinuses clear now?
*NM*
27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM
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Oddly enough, they aren't.
27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM
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the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled.
28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM
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Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM*
28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM
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if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view
28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM
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The problem with Pro-Choice is...
28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM
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Not really a fair comment
28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM
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Re: Not really a fair comment
28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM
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I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend
28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM
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I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted...
28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM
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That is unfair on me
28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM
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...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare
28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM
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Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare
28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM
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I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information,
28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM
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