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I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM
Everything you believe about any supernatural beings and about morality is based on your own interpretation of some book. That's not "open" to new ideas.

And I'm not laughing at you. I feel bad for you. Especially since I think, from many things you've written, that you're a closeted gay or bisexual man who finds his religious beliefs completely at odds with his basic self. But, even if you are completely heterosexual, I still feel bad for you. Thoughts, ideas, and beliefs completely limited by what some old, discredited fables tell you. Very sad indeed.


And actually...not not "my own interpretation" of the book. And I'm open to plenty of new ideas...I'm certainly open to learning about the ideas. That doesn't mean that I will, by any means, incorporate those ideas into my own belief structure. I'm not stupid.

I actually didn't read that as you laughing at me. Honestly I didn't. But as I said...I don't need, or even care for, you sadness or (even on some level?) pity. Its actually mildly insulting, even though I know you don't present it in an insulting manner. Contemplate how you would feel if I related how I see you lifestyle as being sad and you have my pity. At best, it would wash right off your back and wouldn't bother you in the least...at worst, it would anger you.

As per you thinking I'm closeted gay/bi individual who has a life at odds with his spiritual beliefs...close, not not quite. Its not my own sexuality that is in question, but instead that of a very good friend of mine. We've been friends for years, and I often find it hard to...balance?...all of this. Actually, I war with it quite often, and am often...aruging with God? (Its tough to articulate this).

But again...I am always eager to learn, but I do not incorporate things (new thoughts, concepts, ideals) which do not jive with my beliefs. Flip it around....why cannot you incorporate into your belief system that there is a God, and He does love you and desire a relationship with you? Why is this concept so difficult for you to grab ahold of?

~Jeordam
ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 1786 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1061 Views
agreed... somewhat. - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1002 Views
See, that's the debate here... - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 811 Views
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You make baby Allah cry. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 504 Views
was it the dog comparison? - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 866 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 806 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 828 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 824 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1044 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 940 Views
Shall we be technical.... - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 817 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 926 Views
A valid question - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 800 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 817 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 880 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 834 Views
Then we are in accord. - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 843 Views
That works.... - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 843 Views
And I think that is wonderful. - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 944 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 903 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 850 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 961 Views
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at your - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 827 Views
how does atheism take anything away? - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 868 Views
Exactly - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 847 Views
Smiles.... - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 818 Views
just because you believe in god - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 711 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 511 Views
Re: Smiles.... - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 782 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 835 Views
Who says? - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 830 Views
You're not "open" to anything. - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 967 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 848 Views
Personally speaking - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 876 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 503 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 955 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 819 Views
Because we're His children - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 852 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 760 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4185 Views
Tolerance much? - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 886 Views
I took care of that. - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 876 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 681 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 681 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 686 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 785 Views
Well there is a difference between... - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 983 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 849 Views
Says the Protestant. - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 840 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 526 Views
United Church of Christ - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 739 Views
I don't think it is the same thing - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 698 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 681 Views
that I can agree with - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 780 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 798 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 882 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 884 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 823 Views
Heh. *NM* - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 504 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 817 Views
agreed *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 515 Views
this. *NM* - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 457 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 850 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 802 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 941 Views
Bingo. - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 698 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 780 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 683 Views
"the buggery agenda" - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 822 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 527 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 958 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 882 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 933 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 693 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 789 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 487 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 380 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 528 Views
The funny thing is - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1006 Views
Oh no you di'in't! - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 605 Views
I had a similar thought... - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 809 Views
*NM* - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 463 Views
*brain explodes* - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 710 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 474 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 859 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 779 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 808 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 711 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 461 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 703 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 524 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 844 Views
more like.... - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 951 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 816 Views
Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 795 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 907 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 683 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 835 Views
That is unfair on me - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 826 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 872 Views
Apology accepted - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 672 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 699 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 810 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 688 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 771 Views
Ah, - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 797 Views
No. - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 888 Views

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