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I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM
Everything you believe about any supernatural beings and about morality is based on your own interpretation of some book. That's not "open" to new ideas.

And I'm not laughing at you. I feel bad for you. Especially since I think, from many things you've written, that you're a closeted gay or bisexual man who finds his religious beliefs completely at odds with his basic self. But, even if you are completely heterosexual, I still feel bad for you. Thoughts, ideas, and beliefs completely limited by what some old, discredited fables tell you. Very sad indeed.


And actually...not not "my own interpretation" of the book. And I'm open to plenty of new ideas...I'm certainly open to learning about the ideas. That doesn't mean that I will, by any means, incorporate those ideas into my own belief structure. I'm not stupid.

I actually didn't read that as you laughing at me. Honestly I didn't. But as I said...I don't need, or even care for, you sadness or (even on some level?) pity. Its actually mildly insulting, even though I know you don't present it in an insulting manner. Contemplate how you would feel if I related how I see you lifestyle as being sad and you have my pity. At best, it would wash right off your back and wouldn't bother you in the least...at worst, it would anger you.

As per you thinking I'm closeted gay/bi individual who has a life at odds with his spiritual beliefs...close, not not quite. Its not my own sexuality that is in question, but instead that of a very good friend of mine. We've been friends for years, and I often find it hard to...balance?...all of this. Actually, I war with it quite often, and am often...aruging with God? (Its tough to articulate this).

But again...I am always eager to learn, but I do not incorporate things (new thoughts, concepts, ideals) which do not jive with my beliefs. Flip it around....why cannot you incorporate into your belief system that there is a God, and He does love you and desire a relationship with you? Why is this concept so difficult for you to grab ahold of?

~Jeordam
ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 1935 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1145 Views
agreed... somewhat. - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1145 Views
See, that's the debate here... - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 896 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 786 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 537 Views
was it the dog comparison? - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 933 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 890 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 923 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 912 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1137 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 1035 Views
Shall we be technical.... - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 907 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 1011 Views
A valid question - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 883 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 902 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 969 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 926 Views
Then we are in accord. - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 932 Views
That works.... - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 929 Views
And I think that is wonderful. - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 1026 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 975 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 1008 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 1045 Views
- 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 974 Views
at your - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 918 Views
how does atheism take anything away? - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 953 Views
Exactly - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 924 Views
Smiles.... - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 921 Views
just because you believe in god - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 799 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 551 Views
Re: Smiles.... - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 888 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 923 Views
Who says? - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 914 Views
You're not "open" to anything. - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 1050 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 946 Views
Personally speaking - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 977 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 539 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 1049 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 906 Views
Because we're His children - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 941 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 846 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4272 Views
Tolerance much? - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 984 Views
I took care of that. - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 960 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 767 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 761 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 773 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 874 Views
Well there is a difference between... - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 1072 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 933 Views
Says the Protestant. - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 925 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 559 Views
United Church of Christ - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 815 Views
I don't think it is the same thing - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 785 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 760 Views
that I can agree with - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 860 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 877 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 985 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 958 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 911 Views
Heh. *NM* - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 552 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 904 Views
agreed *NM* - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 546 Views
this. *NM* - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 486 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 933 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 905 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 1033 Views
Bingo. - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 770 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 869 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 768 Views
"the buggery agenda" - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 906 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 561 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 1041 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 971 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 1045 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 782 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 879 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 520 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 416 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 557 Views
The funny thing is - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1086 Views
Oh no you di'in't! - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 693 Views
I had a similar thought... - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 891 Views
*NM* - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 497 Views
*brain explodes* - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 801 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 509 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 947 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 860 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 897 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 798 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 499 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 790 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 559 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 931 Views
more like.... - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 1043 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 906 Views
Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 887 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 994 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 766 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 923 Views
That is unfair on me - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 916 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 933 Views
Apology accepted - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 747 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 781 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 899 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 772 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 834 Views
Ah, - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 880 Views
No. - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 969 Views

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