I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below.
LadyLorraine Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM
then you have to make a decision between the possibility to lose two people (one of whom is a fully developed person entrenched in society with relationships, personal history, etc...etc...) or only losing a mass of cells that there is no attachment to other than biological drive and "oh but what might have been!!"
You can easily extend the same argument to babies.You can extend the same argument to any stranger. And also a baby is very clearly alive, whereas at what point someone becomes "human" is still up to a great deal of debate and subjectivity.
So yes...the mother's decision allowed for "Tim" to be born. But what if she had died before carrying to term? his mother would have been gone and quite possibly Tim as well, leading to a more tragic ending.
Dead Christians is a tragedy?Of course it is.
There is too many factors to declare that abortion be declared illegal. The government should not demand people sacrifice their own health for the sake of an embryo. If a family wants to, that is their choice. If a family does not want to, it is their choice.
They made their choice when they got pregnant. Some obstetric issues do not become apparent until investigated, and most people do not have a thorough examination before becoming pregnant. They assume "I am healthy, I have never had reproductive issues, and thus I should be able to bear children". Even those who do and have made the conscious decision to not have children may become pregnant by protection error or perhaps even rape. Yes, if you become pregnant knowing that you put your own health at risk, that is a very poor excuse to use to get an abortion. But many people are not in that situation, and many people do not "plan" to get pregnant. Not to mention the poor souls who become pregnant after being raped.
And no, a child is not to be held accountable for the circumstances of his birth, but there is no definitive measure for one becomes an entity. As I'm sure you are aware, there are arguments from conception all the way to parturition. Many of the arguments on all sides are very subjective and unscientific, and there is absolutely no scientific or objective consensus.
I do not advocate everyone who has an accidental pregnancy, or decides they don't want to be pregnant getting an abortion. That is a horrible waste of potential life, and irresponsible. But I believe it should remain an open option for situations like unexpected complications or rape.
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial
27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM
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I think that its a fantastic idea...
27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM
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agreed... somewhat.
27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM
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See, that's the debate here...
27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM
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depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells.
27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM
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You make baby Allah cry. *NM*
27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM
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was it the dog comparison?
27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM
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yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions
28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM
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Shall we be technical....
27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM
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And since when are you a trained eye?
27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM
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If there's a chance the mother might die...
27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM
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What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be.
27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM
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I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below.
27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM
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Which is why I'm against elective abortion
27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM
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Then we are in accord.
27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM
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I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad
27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM
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Go ahead and pay for one....
27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM
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how does atheism take anything away?
27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM
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LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement.
27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM
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Who says?
27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM
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You're not "open" to anything.
27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM
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I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity.
27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM
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Personally speaking
27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM
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Tolerance much?
27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM
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Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it.
27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM
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Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel
28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM
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Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic
27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM
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Well there is a difference between...
27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM
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The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not.
27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM
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I don't think it is the same thing
27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM
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Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM*
29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM
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The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS.
27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM
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And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning.
27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM
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"the buggery agenda"
27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM
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I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM*
27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM
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You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness"
27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM
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I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space
27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM
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Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it.
27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM
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That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity
28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM
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But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM*
27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM
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*brain explodes*
27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM
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are your sinuses clear now? *NM*
27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM
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Oddly enough, they aren't.
27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM
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the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled.
28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM
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Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM*
28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM
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if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view
28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM
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The problem with Pro-Choice is...
28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM
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Not really a fair comment
28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM
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Re: Not really a fair comment
28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM
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I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend
28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM
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I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted...
28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM
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That is unfair on me
28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM
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...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare
28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM
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Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare
28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM
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I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information,
28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM
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