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agreed... somewhat. lil lady Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM
because it puts a face and a name to the debate. By many accounts, Tim wouldn't even exist...because his mother's doctors regarded him as nothing important. They were willing to get rid of him based upon...opinion?

If she had caved into their opinions, he would be dead. Because of her regard for her son's life Tim lives. It is a fantastic message to share that his mother's love is *literally* why he lives.

~Jeordam


If she had "chosen" differently there would be no Tim. But the key word here is choice. Personally, if I got pregnant now (impossible cuz I'm fixed) I would keep the baby. I have two children now. But if my daughter gets pregnant as a teenager I want her to be able to choose what is right for her.
I'm still me.
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 1786 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1061 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 1002 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 811 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 688 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 504 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 866 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 806 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 828 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 823 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1043 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 940 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 817 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 926 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 800 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 817 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 880 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 785 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 801 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 834 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 841 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 843 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 944 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 902 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 850 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 961 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 887 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 827 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 868 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 847 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 818 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 711 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 510 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 782 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 835 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 830 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 967 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 847 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 875 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 503 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 955 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 818 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 851 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 760 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4185 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 886 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 876 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 681 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 681 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 685 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 841 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 785 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 983 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 849 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 840 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 526 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 739 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 698 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 681 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 780 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 798 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 536 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 882 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 884 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 823 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 504 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 816 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 515 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 457 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 850 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 802 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 941 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 698 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 780 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 683 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 822 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 526 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 958 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 882 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 933 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 693 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 789 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 634 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 487 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 380 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 528 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 1006 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 605 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 808 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 463 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 710 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 474 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 859 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 779 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 808 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 711 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 461 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 703 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 524 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 844 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 951 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 816 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 795 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 906 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 682 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 835 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 826 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 871 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 672 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 698 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 809 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 688 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 771 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 796 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 887 Views
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