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agreed... somewhat. lil lady Send a noteboard - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM
because it puts a face and a name to the debate. By many accounts, Tim wouldn't even exist...because his mother's doctors regarded him as nothing important. They were willing to get rid of him based upon...opinion?

If she had caved into their opinions, he would be dead. Because of her regard for her son's life Tim lives. It is a fantastic message to share that his mother's love is *literally* why he lives.

~Jeordam


If she had "chosen" differently there would be no Tim. But the key word here is choice. Personally, if I got pregnant now (impossible cuz I'm fixed) I would keep the baby. I have two children now. But if my daughter gets pregnant as a teenager I want her to be able to choose what is right for her.
I'm still me.
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Anti-Abortion CBS Super Bowl commercial lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:35:37 PM 1753 Views
I think that its a fantastic idea... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 05:46:17 PM 1036 Views
agreed... somewhat. lil lady - 27/01/2010 05:52:26 PM 964 Views
See, that's the debate here... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:03:01 PM 783 Views
depending on the developmental stage, an embryo might be nothign more than a clump of cells. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:18:25 PM 657 Views
You make baby Allah cry. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 489 Views
was it the dog comparison? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:59:22 PM 828 Views
Nah, Dog is God reversed, after all. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:29:12 PM 775 Views
parasites! parasites i say!!! LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:37:53 PM 797 Views
yeah except islam allows abortion in certain conditions Aisha - 28/01/2010 05:43:29 AM 779 Views
Do those conditions include "I don't want a baby"? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:52:24 PM 1009 Views
some scholars say yes, some say no Aisha - 29/01/2010 05:51:18 AM 904 Views
Shall we be technical.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:28:20 PM 785 Views
And since when are you a trained eye? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:52:05 PM 891 Views
A valid question Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:07:16 PM 769 Views
Okay then, that's fair enough LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:48:10 PM 777 Views
If there's a chance the mother might die... LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:30:54 PM 849 Views
What if the "real" preson is an asshole? I'd gamble on the baby who has the potential to not be. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:44:57 PM 749 Views
I wasn't commenting on the commercial, I did that further below. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:59:17 PM 766 Views
Which is why I'm against elective abortion Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:33:59 PM 804 Views
Then we are in accord. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:00:32 PM 810 Views
That works.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:10:22 PM 815 Views
And I think that is wonderful. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 10:33:05 PM 914 Views
I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:21:02 PM 882 Views
Re: I want to see an atheism Superbowl ad lil lady - 27/01/2010 06:35:30 PM 823 Views
Go ahead and pay for one.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:37:18 PM 931 Views
beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 07:01:59 PM 855 Views
at your Jeordam - 27/01/2010 07:03:39 PM 796 Views
how does atheism take anything away? LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:20:49 PM 833 Views
Exactly Brian - 27/01/2010 07:29:49 PM 813 Views
Smiles.... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:38:25 PM 785 Views
just because you believe in god LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:57:39 PM 680 Views
losing, not loosing *NM* Brian - 27/01/2010 10:22:51 PM 496 Views
Re: Smiles.... lyringlas - 29/01/2010 09:03:48 PM 751 Views
LOL It only "takes away" mental enslavement. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:50:56 PM 804 Views
Who says? Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:42:07 PM 797 Views
You're not "open" to anything. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 10:02:03 PM 933 Views
I don't need your sadness dude...or your pity. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 10:19:43 PM 811 Views
Personally speaking Brian - 27/01/2010 10:36:45 PM 843 Views
Although off topic that's exactly how I see it too. *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 10:43:49 PM 489 Views
But notice your perspective Brian... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 11:08:52 PM 922 Views
Your argument assumes in the existance of the Christian God. LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:28:16 PM 788 Views
Because we're His children beckstcw - 28/01/2010 01:08:20 AM 814 Views
My perspective as someone who is for the most part an Atheist? Brian - 28/01/2010 01:13:02 AM 725 Views
You have a very odd and self-serving notion of what "open" is. LiterateDog - 28/01/2010 12:12:06 AM 4155 Views
Tolerance much? snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:11:12 PM 853 Views
I took care of that. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:33:18 PM 849 Views
Don't read an emotion into that I didn't put into it. Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:44:37 PM 652 Views
Oh, well there are examples. Google those ads I mentioned beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 11:24:10 PM 655 Views
all athesim means is not believing in deities 9_9 LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 11:30:37 PM 651 Views
Your comment is rude and narrow minded. Regardless of what emotion you feel snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:20:11 PM 805 Views
Fortunately, positivity doesn't appear to be the qualifying characteristic Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:26:28 PM 752 Views
Well there is a difference between... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 09:47:36 PM 949 Views
The fact is that it was a positive message, whether you agreed with it or not. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 09:52:47 PM 813 Views
Says the Protestant. Ghavrel - 27/01/2010 11:22:05 PM 807 Views
What is the UCC? *NM* Tashmere - 29/01/2010 02:59:07 AM 513 Views
United Church of Christ Sareitha Sedai - 29/01/2010 02:24:11 PM 703 Views
I don't think it is the same thing random thoughts - 27/01/2010 07:17:19 PM 666 Views
I wasn't making an argument- just that it'd be interesting beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 08:11:57 PM 651 Views
that I can agree with random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:27:30 PM 749 Views
Re: I think that its a fantastic idea... callandor1000 - 28/01/2010 03:36:11 AM 766 Views
Followed by an add of all the babies that should have been aborted? *NM* Helene - 29/01/2010 05:53:43 PM 519 Views
Hey whatever they want to pay for PhoenixReborn - 27/01/2010 05:52:11 PM 845 Views
Hahahaha... I couldn't care less, but this line cracked me up beetnemesis - 27/01/2010 06:19:37 PM 858 Views
wow...I didn't even think of that... Jeordam - 27/01/2010 06:39:04 PM 794 Views
Heh. *NM* Tashmere - 28/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 491 Views
I think they need to treat all sides the same random thoughts - 27/01/2010 06:49:47 PM 791 Views
agreed *NM* ironclad - 27/01/2010 07:15:48 PM 499 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:33:01 AM 444 Views
whether you agree with Tebow or not... damookster - 27/01/2010 06:51:58 PM 819 Views
I don't think there'd be a problem if it wasn't the Super Bowl LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 07:35:18 PM 766 Views
The problem is the hyprocrisy of CBS. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 07:56:58 PM 901 Views
Bingo. Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 07:58:01 PM 668 Views
And they claim this is the result of you liberal types pissing and moaning. Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:40:57 PM 752 Views
Yeah, I'm sure that's it. LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 08:44:26 PM 650 Views
"the buggery agenda" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:47:28 PM 787 Views
I know, I loved it! I might start using that instead of Fagenda. *NM* LiterateDog - 27/01/2010 09:03:53 PM 514 Views
You might need to rework titles too. "Most Buggered", "Her Buggerness" LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:06:44 PM 923 Views
this commercial is only a big deal to those Hobgoblin - 27/01/2010 07:59:27 PM 853 Views
I really, really hope a pro-choice group buys the next ad space snoopcester - 27/01/2010 08:09:16 PM 894 Views
Replace Hitler with Ben Affleck and I'd help pay for it. Brian - 27/01/2010 08:12:25 PM 665 Views
that's funny enough it'd pay for itself LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 08:13:31 PM 757 Views
That would work also. The main thing is to pick someone who has committed crimes against humanity snoopcester - 28/01/2010 10:57:28 AM 603 Views
But how would you folks argue on the internet then? I'd still have Stalin... *NM* Cannoli - 27/01/2010 08:49:17 PM 472 Views
I'm sure people could think of something *NM* LadyLorraine - 27/01/2010 09:00:23 PM 368 Views
LMAO! that would be awesome *NM* Aisha - 28/01/2010 12:02:25 AM 518 Views
The funny thing is Sareitha Sedai - 27/01/2010 08:28:22 PM 968 Views
Oh no you di'in't! Tigr - 27/01/2010 08:54:47 PM 578 Views
I had a similar thought... TaskmasterJack - 27/01/2010 10:17:15 PM 774 Views
*NM* Avendesora - 28/01/2010 01:12:46 AM 450 Views
*brain explodes* Joel - 27/01/2010 08:30:51 PM 675 Views
are your sinuses clear now? *NM* random thoughts - 27/01/2010 08:54:18 PM 462 Views
Oddly enough, they aren't. Joel - 27/01/2010 08:59:27 PM 827 Views
thats what you get for living in the hill country random thoughts - 27/01/2010 09:10:09 PM 746 Views
Not my idea, and I'm working on it. Joel - 28/01/2010 12:36:17 AM 775 Views
the super bowl is no place for political messages, no matter how thinly veiled. moondog - 28/01/2010 05:15:13 AM 678 Views
Are you saying that CBS should be required to run an opposing ad? *NM* beckstcw - 28/01/2010 05:19:39 AM 446 Views
if they are going to approve a political message, they should be required to air the opposite view moondog - 28/01/2010 05:27:33 AM 667 Views
I'm pretty strongly pro-choice and even I find that silly. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/01/2010 06:55:37 AM 506 Views
What kind of ad would they run in response? beckstcw - 28/01/2010 11:50:10 PM 810 Views
more like.... moondog - 29/01/2010 03:20:24 AM 918 Views
The problem with Pro-Choice is... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 02:12:13 PM 780 Views
Not really a fair comment snoopcester - 28/01/2010 02:44:21 PM 768 Views
Re: Not really a fair comment Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:27:03 PM 874 Views
I can't see Youtube at work and am out the next couple of nights so I can't see it till the weekend snoopcester - 28/01/2010 03:36:48 PM 654 Views
I know you were going to tell me that it was slanted... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 03:57:37 PM 807 Views
That is unfair on me snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:18:07 PM 791 Views
Sorry...wasn't trying to be unfair.... Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:34:18 PM 851 Views
Apology accepted snoopcester - 28/01/2010 04:52:39 PM 640 Views
...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Floffe - 28/01/2010 03:46:25 PM 665 Views
Re: ...which is yet another argument for publicly funded healthcare Silence_DoGood - 28/01/2010 04:03:46 PM 772 Views
An unfortunate choice of words.... Jeordam - 28/01/2010 07:00:18 PM 661 Views
I don't think it's so much a matter of supplying misleading information, Rebekah - 28/01/2010 11:07:24 PM 747 Views
Ah, snoopcester - 29/01/2010 02:51:22 PM 769 Views
No. Rebekah - 29/01/2010 06:10:47 PM 852 Views
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