I do think a person's job is a used does play a huge role on how others judge them. What is one of the first things people want to know about? What do you do for a living. The did a study where they had people rate male faces for attractiveness with no information given then had them rated with false job titles attached and their attractiveness shifted depending upon the desirability of the job.
That's certainly true, but it's still a big leap from thinking that a job is beneath you to thinking that the people who do that job are beneath you. Even with the attractiveness, you'd have to be quite shallow indeed to really consider people beneath you just because they're unattractive (whether because of their actual looks, the job they have and other "status" characteristics, or a combination of the two).
I believe class is another factor in why Americans have a harsher view of people saying a job is beneath them. Americans have dim view of class systems and people who think they are somehow inherently better then because of their station in life. How much the sort of family you come from determine if you go to a university? Americans typically do not take kindly to statements seen as derogatory to people who earn a living the hard way.
Yes, absolutely - and conversely, me and Jens not being American, it shouldn't be that surprising that we view things a bit differently. If you ask me, it's not so much that the class system doesn't exist in America, but merely that Americans hate to acknowledge that for ideological and historical reasons, and possibly also because it has connections with the touchy racial issues. People who think they are somehow inherently better because of their station in life, you'll find on both sides of the Atlantic, just like you'll find people on both sides who are smart enough to realize that being richer, smarter, better-educated, having a job with a higher status, doesn't make you "better".
And it doesn't seem to me that e.g. garbage collecting as a job has a higher status in the US; the big difference is the disparity in how people view collecting unemployment benefits. Americans work so much more per week, have so much fewer holidays, and all that, it's perhaps not unlogical that they attach more importance to jobs and - apparently - consider their work - the fact that they are working, more than which job they are doing - a more essential aspect of who they are.
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26/01/2010 12:41:16 PM
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Seriously, fuck him.
26/01/2010 12:47:05 PM
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You. Not so eloquent like the Irish princess.
26/01/2010 02:13:28 PM
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That's just silly.
26/01/2010 01:05:07 PM
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Since Elaine has said it all so eloquently, I will just agree with her.
26/01/2010 02:12:41 PM
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Usually, I think it's stupid to turn down a job, particularly in those circumstances.
26/01/2010 02:21:59 PM
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I agree
26/01/2010 02:47:22 PM
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...and instead you would ask your friend to loan you money?
26/01/2010 02:53:38 PM
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No, friends and loaning money don't mix so well
26/01/2010 03:03:12 PM
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I seriously don't mean this to be near as nasty as it sounds...
26/01/2010 03:21:40 PM
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I have nothing but respect for them and their job. I am glad someone does it.
26/01/2010 03:35:25 PM
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I think that works in the short term but not in the long term
26/01/2010 03:47:52 PM
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That's why I said I didn't mean to defend him *NM*
26/01/2010 03:49:34 PM
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Well I was just making it clear that though I agreed with you, it was very time dependent *NM*
26/01/2010 04:26:53 PM
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your only worth what someone is willing to pay you no matter how much time you spent in school
26/01/2010 04:08:29 PM
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That's true
26/01/2010 04:28:00 PM
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so the janitor is a janitor becuase he likes cleaning up after other people?
26/01/2010 05:25:57 PM
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With an atitude like that
26/01/2010 06:24:35 PM
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As you presumably guessed already...
26/01/2010 06:39:54 PM
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Re: As you presumably guessed already...
26/01/2010 07:31:46 PM
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I think it's offensive to those EMPLOYED in those jobs.
26/01/2010 07:53:54 PM
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Yeah that's totally what I said *NM*
26/01/2010 08:05:30 PM
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To a degree, it is.
26/01/2010 08:21:04 PM
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They are not beneath me because of me being a better person or even smarter...
26/01/2010 08:33:18 PM
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Re: They are not beneath me because I am a better person or even smarter...
26/01/2010 08:47:27 PM
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Only if one's identity is entirely determined by the job one does.
26/01/2010 09:07:57 PM
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If you wouldn't do their job
26/01/2010 09:19:36 PM
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You seem to ignore the main point of my post entirely and just repeat what Joe said, tbh. *NM*
26/01/2010 10:06:11 PM
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I think it smacks of elitism and class
26/01/2010 10:13:11 PM
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Like we discussed above, yeah.
26/01/2010 10:39:23 PM
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Kinda funny, eh?
26/01/2010 08:07:44 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
27/01/2010 12:41:02 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
27/01/2010 12:57:48 PM
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doesn't mean you have to insult the rest of us.
27/01/2010 01:17:16 PM
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Re: Kinda funny, eh?
27/01/2010 01:20:24 PM
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Which leads back to me saying I do not support the poster's friend's attitude *NM*
27/01/2010 01:21:49 PM
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tell him you could give him the money but want to wait to see if a better friend shows up needing it *NM*
26/01/2010 02:38:08 PM
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. . .what?
26/01/2010 05:47:58 PM
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it was meant to be a bit of joke and make a point
26/01/2010 06:00:07 PM
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Absolutely not. Whatever it takes to take care of my family. *NM*
26/01/2010 03:14:09 PM
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This reminds me of a crazy night in Reno and a dead blackjack dealer. Remember that?
26/01/2010 04:17:50 PM
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Yeah, Reno's tourism industry nearly went under when they debuted their new slogan.
26/01/2010 04:20:01 PM
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The asking for money is where I'd have to draw the line, I guess.
26/01/2010 03:23:44 PM
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I think I would only not work at McDonalds. I'd even do Burger King or something, just not McDonalds *NM*
26/01/2010 04:27:07 PM
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Being in a non-working position...I can tell you to tell him to fuck off.
26/01/2010 06:35:54 PM
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