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You must think Barry Switzer is one the greatest coaches of all time then he is 5 of 7 post season random thoughts Send a noteboard - 21/01/2010 04:28:29 PM

And if you don't want to give him credit for his wins because Jimmy built the team then Wade shouldn't have to take credit for losses in first two years since they were not teams he built. That means he is batting 500.

Personally I think it is wrong headed to judge a coach or a QB based on the results of one or two games and to ignore the results of the rest of the games they played. Only one team a year gets the ring, the rest of the teams didn't suck.

Or that he has been so for his time at Dallas. No he hasn't won the big one yet but guess what no has one it until they have one it. His team played better then a lot of coaches that people seem to think walk on water.

Two words: Marty Schottenheimer. ;) Though a 5-13 post season record is better than 1-4 (or 0-3 prior to this year. ) I like Wade, but I'm not convinced he's more than a very good DC.


Schottenheimer was fired after going 14-2 and not winning a Super Bowl. Tell me how did the Chargers finish up the year? Maybe it wasn't the coach after all. Schottenheimer will end up with a yellow jacket.

The talking heads on TV put way to much weight behind who is the head coach. Players win games and assistant coaches are the one who get them ready to win them.

As for the talent thing I find it odd that you don't seem to really like any of the Cowboys players but think they are wasting all of this untapped talent. Exactly who are you referring to when you talk about the talent at Dallas. I don't really see that they are really any different talent wise then any other palyoff team and some of their best talent are free agents.

Romo grew on me a LOT in the last month, though until he can do it for more than one season I won't be sold, but the Cowboys have some pretty good players. Jay Ratliff finally seems to be a NT worthy of the name, and I'd start Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten on my team without a second thought. I have issues with Olshansky from his days in SD (not getting into that though) but who wouldn't want Ware, Newman, Spencer or Spears? I wouldn't mind having Barber in Denver, except we've had backs who had great games one week and got 20 yards on 10 carries and 2 fumbles the next. Same problem Romo had: Talent is there, but no one's taught him how to control it, or told him he better figure the hell out how or look for work. There's less of that now that TO, the OTHER Roy Williams and Keyshawn aren't around, but then I think the Cowboys finished about where they belong this year, regular season and playoffs.


Roy Williams? wouldn't you rather have a receiver who can catch? Jones is better running back right now then Barber and Witten has the same number of false starts as Adams.

I agree the Cowboys have some good players, that is why they did well this season but I don't think have a more talent then the other top tier teams in the league and I don't think they played below their talent level. If anything I think they finished the season playing above their talent level which is why the wheels came off so dramatically in the second half of the game. When a team has been playing above their talent level for an extended amount of time the drop we they lode that momentum is dramatic. Sort of like what happened to your ponies and the giants.

I know you hate Jerry and I am not a member of Jerry fan club either but I think he has demonized a little to much and besides I was Cowboy fan before he got here and I will be a fan when he is gone. It isn't like he turned the team into the Detroit Lions. All teams wax and wane and the Cowboys have simply waxed more then most, even under Jerry. How many teams have better records then the Cowboys have had since Jerry showed up? Three rings played in four championship games have one their division 8 out 19 times winning record 13 out of 19. That isn't to shabby of a record.

The Cowboys waxed under Jimmy Johnson, declined thereafter and have never reemerged as a a major contender. 'Cept for the year they got homefield advantage but were swept in their first game by a team they beat twice during the season. The standards are different in places like Dallas than they are in Detroit, just ask Brian Griese, Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler and, soon, Kyle Orton (he may be more screwed than any of them because he got Grieses arm and mobility but Plummers brain. ) If you're a Falcons fan you're just happy to make the playoffs; if you're a Cowboys fan anything less than a ring is failure.


Cowboys fans need to get over the idea that anything less then a ring is a failure. The days of football dynasties are over. With revenue sharing, free agency and salary caps you have to be happy with winning seasons and the occasional shot at a title.

Hell look at a biggest rivals from the glory days, most of them wish they could be doing as the Cowboys have been doing. But lets be honest it is the Cowboys critics not the Cowboy fans who typically want to hold the Cowboys to unrealistic standards. Most of the fans I know (and I know a lot of them) are disappointed with how it ended but the are generally happy with the team. You here some the typical sofa chair grumbling about this guy should start or this guy should be fired but overall I think the team has as much support as ever. I saw a lot of Cowboy shirts after the loss.

Almost every head coach either focused on defense or offense before they became head coach so I am not sure how much weight their is to that argument.

Granted, but most successful ones move beyond that sooner or later. Very few people have the luxury of saying, "I don't know wtf I'm doing; here, Peyton, YOU run the offense. " More often it's "crap, Vince Young can't run an offense by himself yet. "


That isn't exactly what happened. He had a defensive and offensive coordinator when he started and the defense wasn't playing up to speed and since that is his strong suite he took over and the defense is running great. Hoe many head coaches run both sides of the ball? He is still the one who decides on overall offensive strategy Jason just calls the plays.

I really think you are holding Wade to an unfair standard and haven't seen you point to anything he is doing that isn't pretty mush SOP in the NFL.

I don't have a problem with Wade. I don't think the head coach needs to be head cheerleader and the team has continued to improve since he has been here. Yes I know their record was better in 2007 but I still think this was a better team. I have a bigger problem with Garret and have never been impressed with his play calling. One of the hottest receivers in league and they take no shots down field during the first half? It isn't like they didn't have enough time of possession to take a shot or two. Yes they were having protection problems but there are ways to get around that for one or two shots down field.

The coach doesn't need to be head cheerleader, or shouldn't often (someone needed to rally the troops at halftime last week though, and guess who's job that is. ) He does need to be able to tell players not to skip practice or stay out too late, but that's hard to do with prima donnas who have the owner on speed dial. And I've liked Garrett since the day he walked on the field (on the other hand that was around the time I thought the solution to the QB controversy was trade Aikman and start Walsh, so wtf do I know? :P ) Till Dallas got a handle on Edwards and the NFLs second leading sackmaster you weren't going to see many 7 step drops. Which brings us back to "Colombo and Adams need to stop loafing, and Wade needs to make that VERY clear to them. " At this point I don't know if they have the talent or not; seems like all I ever see Flozell do is get penalized.


Adams and Witten had the same number of false starts and Adams had very penalties in the second half of the season. The entire Tuck incident was blown out of proportion. Hardly the first time a player shoved another player after the play was blow dead. It was chicken shit move but the press blew it all of portion. Adams is a good LT that is why he as been to the probowl five times. in general you hear about O linemen when they are messing up. Besides the Vikings game what are you basing your judgment of Colombo and Adams on? I saw Romo get sacked more because Witten blew a block then because Adams got beat.
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