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you acept your friends with their warts or you don't random thoughts Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM

So she has some religious beliefs you don't agree with if she is a friend in other regards simply stop discussing religion with her. Arguing why you don't think she should hold her beliefs would be like arguing that a Muslim should eat pork. It doesn't matter what argument you use it won't trump what her religion teaches her. Now if it is her refusing to accept you and your right to hold your own beliefs then you are better off without her.

Leave the much more touchy gay marriage argument and look at the more straightforward you cannot go to heaven argument. I can’t quote chapter and verse but the bible says straight out that acts will not get you to heaven and the only way to get there is though accepting Christ as your savior. That isn’t some crazy concept a fundamentalist church in Texas came up with by misreading a single passage, it is a basic tenant of the Christian religion. It is pretty much on par with Muslims accepting Mohamed was the prophet of god. I would have to say you judging her for that belief shows intolerance on your part not the other way around.

The gay marriage issue is much more complicated since it isn’t verbatim from the bible and it involves actually denying something from other people but it still stems form the same belief system. Do you feel so strongly about the issue that you can only be friends with people who feel the same way? There are issues I feel so strongly about that I won't be friends with people who disagree but they tend to be extreme views and not ones held by significant percentages of the population.

She is right about one thing, you have to watch out for those crazy east coast liberals. ;)
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1455 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 763 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 762 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 717 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 618 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 671 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 675 Views
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It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 761 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 659 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 361 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 580 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 287 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 578 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 717 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 817 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 602 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 429 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 288 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 246 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 313 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 584 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 760 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 580 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 666 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 635 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 811 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 672 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 548 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 646 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 753 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 775 Views
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we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 589 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 294 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 537 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 669 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 623 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 639 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 620 Views
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Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 625 Views
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Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 703 Views
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Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 612 Views
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You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 660 Views
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He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 232 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 581 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 253 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 231 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 543 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 556 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 701 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 581 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 688 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 215 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 612 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 643 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 519 Views

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