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Are you at all surprised? Camilla Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM
You are not wrong about your distinction between civil & religious weddings. However, same-sex marriage forces others to treat unions to which they are personally opposed as legitimate. For example, nothing stops an employer from extending his health benefits to his exployees' same-sex partner if he chooses, and the free market means that employers who do such things have an advantage in trying to attract employees who would be interested (and for the Christians, the right of an employer to spend his money as he pleases in such a manner is supported by the Gospels, so this should not be an issue) in this benefit. Meanwhile those who oppose it are free to withhold such recognition and also free to accept the consequences of losing employees who dislike such a policy. The point is, everyone is free to act according to his or her beliefs. Not so if same-sex marriage is legalized. Now everyone must accept same-sex marriage under threat of force, even if it violates their conscience or religion. By trying to get legal recognition for same-sex marriage, it supporters aer the ones trying to ram THEIR ideology down everyone's throat!


It forces them to treat same-sex unions as existent, just like heterosexual marriages, and that's it. Many of the devout religious view any "civil" marriage, i.e. a union that was not sanctified by a church, as illegitimate, but that's their religious preference and not something they get to legislate via the government.

Also, your attempt to justify governing with religious preference through free-market rhetoric is just pathetic.
*MySmiley*
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I may have lost a friend over same sex marriage - 17/01/2010 08:03:26 AM 1385 Views
the problem with your friend is the "southern evangelical christian" part - 17/01/2010 09:07:02 AM 694 Views
They believe gay marriage is ongoing unrepentant sin. - 17/01/2010 12:04:58 PM 704 Views
God your a moron. - 17/01/2010 09:10:17 PM 644 Views
be nice - 18/01/2010 06:26:58 AM 558 Views
<shrug> They can believe that all that they like - 18/01/2010 08:07:28 PM 610 Views
And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 18/01/2010 11:10:51 PM 618 Views
Re: And live accordingly. Just like everyone else. - 20/01/2010 10:40:36 PM 570 Views
It is, I believe, hardest for the intelligent educated man. - 21/01/2010 10:29:39 AM 702 Views
You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 17/01/2010 10:12:11 AM 595 Views
LOL... *NM* - 18/01/2010 05:21:14 AM 332 Views
You and Adam are being equally unconstructive. - 18/01/2010 06:21:45 AM 522 Views
why do you imply "constructive" is in anyway the intent? *NM* - 18/01/2010 06:32:27 AM 253 Views
*shrug* I never stopped believing in lost causes? - 18/01/2010 07:36:04 AM 511 Views
Re: You can't use logic in an irrational argument. - 18/01/2010 06:28:41 AM 650 Views
Always welcome. - 18/01/2010 07:31:27 AM 746 Views
We finally converted you - 17/01/2010 08:43:25 PM 530 Views
Not much of a friend then. Good ridance to bad friends. *NM* - 17/01/2010 08:51:02 PM 404 Views
I agree. A friend who can't respect differences of opinion is no friend at all. *NM* - 17/01/2010 09:11:33 PM 262 Views
seriously. *NM* - 17/01/2010 10:46:17 PM 221 Views
Only because such sentiment is my pet peeve...condemning exclusivity is hypocritical. *NM* - 19/01/2010 12:37:37 AM 291 Views
yeah no kidding - 18/01/2010 06:30:45 AM 524 Views
It forces other people to accept THEIR ideology that same sex unions are legitimate. - 18/01/2010 01:49:20 AM 685 Views
I would assume, then, that you don't support any government-mandated health care? - 18/01/2010 02:07:40 AM 522 Views
Correct - 18/01/2010 04:29:04 AM 605 Views
Although I disagree with the vast majority of your arguments, - 18/01/2010 08:50:09 AM 599 Views
Thank you. - 20/01/2010 01:47:34 AM 749 Views
Please tell me you have a source for that quotation. Other than me. - 21/01/2010 12:31:27 PM 609 Views
It's GK Chesterton! What the hell are you going on about? - 27/01/2010 02:41:00 AM 488 Views
Link? - 27/01/2010 09:28:22 AM 579 Views
I can't find a link to the exact quote - 27/01/2010 12:14:19 PM 695 Views
Re: Link? - 27/01/2010 01:38:36 PM 714 Views
Perhaps we should define our terms more precisely. - 15/02/2010 11:28:09 AM 1073 Views
we do not exist in a free market. - 18/01/2010 04:09:37 AM 527 Views
And that's bad. Since when has the correct response to oppression been "accept further oppression"? *NM* - 18/01/2010 04:30:44 AM 271 Views
I am simply pointing out your arguments do not apply to the present economic environment. - 18/01/2010 04:46:04 AM 483 Views
No I am not. - 19/01/2010 10:44:31 PM 606 Views
That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:19:57 AM 561 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 04:41:27 AM 578 Views
civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 18/01/2010 04:49:12 AM 560 Views
Re: civil marriages DO have a purpose. - 19/01/2010 10:47:18 PM 617 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:13:54 AM 561 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 19/01/2010 10:59:45 PM 533 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 18/01/2010 07:15:50 AM 640 Views
Re: That's utter nonsense. - 20/01/2010 01:38:37 AM 446 Views
Are you at all surprised? - 18/01/2010 07:59:30 AM 555 Views
A truly free country means I don't have the freedom to shoot you - 18/01/2010 05:57:44 AM 637 Views
You really said nothing, right there. - 18/01/2010 08:34:33 AM 596 Views
I presume you are equally against the current set up - 18/01/2010 12:31:33 PM 634 Views
He said as much in his response to me above. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:37:49 PM 216 Views
That's such an amusing argument - 18/01/2010 08:17:15 PM 522 Views
I'm against people with pasta based nicknames on fantasy forums *NM* - 19/01/2010 03:03:31 PM 227 Views
cannoli is a pastry *NM* - 19/01/2010 07:25:04 PM 207 Views
I have no problem with people with pastry based names, just pasta - 21/01/2010 12:28:44 AM 477 Views
I can't help but find it funny - 18/01/2010 12:51:57 PM 497 Views
So... - 18/01/2010 03:39:33 PM 622 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out - 18/01/2010 04:11:05 PM 519 Views
you acept your friends with their warts or you don't - 18/01/2010 06:45:13 PM 629 Views
I think you missed who was the one to walk out *NM* - 18/01/2010 08:01:25 PM 199 Views
I don't think it was that clear - 18/01/2010 10:01:32 PM 544 Views
I don't think it is all that clear yet, either - 18/01/2010 10:27:54 PM 586 Views
I wasn't taking sides - 18/01/2010 10:57:39 PM 458 Views

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