It always bugs me when I right up a detailed response and someone ignores all the points and carries on with their own, so I appreciate you're taking the time to respond point for point.




Like a light bulb, on or off? Well, yes mostly, let me put in a caveat though, that most light bulbs, if you just ran a little current through them, would be on, but we wouldn't see it because it wouldn't be enough for a light bulb of that size to produce visible light, just IR. So the device is on but not producing the quantity that defines it's nature. I think a certain level of bias is necessary to merit the title of bigot, whichever particular type. Then of course, you've got the little christmas lisht one watt bigot, and the full blown 100 Watt bigot. And unsurprisingly I just got down screwing with a lamp fixture



To a degree, this is correct, but while lib/con are fairly broad terms like prejudiced, something like racism or sexism is more akin to a specific issue, like abortion or gay marriage.



I think it's certainly possible to be a racist and not be KKK, but usually there's going to be a reason for that 'I don't want people to know' or 'I think you guys go too far' or even 'I'm asian, I despise blacks and whites'. But I still don't see how an issue can automatically be racist, unless it's specifically loaded 'Do you, yes or no, think blacks are inferior?'. No segregation, that's close enough to being a purely racial issue that I feel you could say 'this is a racist issue' but even on that I'm leery of specifically labeling someone, because I know how easy it would be to take someone who was reasonably well-intentioned but unversed on the history of it and get them to say 'By God, you're right! School integration is just another attempt to destroy what little remains of black culture, bad enough we dragged them over here, now we're going to force them all to be white in school' or flip that and convince them segregation is so wrong that we need to convert to unisex bathrooms. So even on something as apparently clear cut as 'sepereate but equal' you have a chance that someone got on one side for entirely non-racist reasons, just, well stupidity. While racism maybe be stupid, stupid is not necessarily racist.



Exceptions to the rule always spoil decent analogies, yes I catch you're meaning.





I'm not sure that's a hole, since that is my opinion (I'm firmly pro-life), we're not the one's claiming it's about sexism. Many pro-choice groups and feminists groups reguarly use that line of logic, sometimes going so far as to say if we did vote on the issue, only women should get a vote. I'd also argue that it does affect men, but that's a whole different subject.



Agreed of course, but I don't see how that fails to translate back into the case I was raising them as examples for.




I'm not sure someone being a massive mega-racist makes their lesser racist views off the hook or examinaiton table. Let something like 'poor at carpentry' stand unchallenged and next thing you know you got 'study shows jews inferior carpenters, experts say they lack ubermenschen's superior hand-eye coordination'




I think it has, we clearly just have a difference in definition.



Yes, thank you for explaining your point in detail.