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Maybe, but having knowledge of the topic wasn't one of my advantages in that argument. *NM* Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 13/01/2010 03:36:31 AM
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So what EXACTLY is the problem with Reid's comments? Tom - 12/01/2010 04:11:56 AM 880 Views
it wasn't just that he commented on the lack of "dialect" damookster - 12/01/2010 04:16:27 AM 594 Views
Regardless of that, I don't see the ability to use dialect as a racist statement. Tom - 12/01/2010 04:32:07 AM 544 Views
I agree damookster - 12/01/2010 04:36:23 AM 563 Views
That's what I was thinking... Legolas - 12/01/2010 08:52:32 AM 571 Views
when was the last time you heard a white person speaking ebonics? LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 01:41:24 PM 554 Views
A week or so ago. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 08:09:09 PM 490 Views
About a day for me. a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:33:40 PM 565 Views
Yeah, I'm back in Boston now, so... Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 459 Views
Isn't that the definition of a wigger? A white person who speaks/acts like a black person? Tim - 12/01/2010 09:49:34 PM 523 Views
So black person = N****r? Reid's looking better and better. *NM* a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:34:37 PM 250 Views
You know Tim isn't saying that. Rebekah - 12/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 515 Views
Um, what? Tim - 13/01/2010 06:55:21 AM 514 Views
And the fact that Wigger = White N****r isn't racist at all! *NM* a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:33:04 PM 284 Views
I wasn't using the term seriously 9_9 LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 04:26:20 AM 486 Views
Mocking white people for "acting like black people" by modifying a slur on blacks... hm... *NM* Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 06:50:46 AM 218 Views
The problem is he's a politician PhoenixReborn - 12/01/2010 04:35:51 AM 583 Views
because that would solve our problems. *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 04:37:18 AM 242 Views
You know, what IS a good term for black people these days? LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 04:36:33 AM 591 Views
technically... damookster - 12/01/2010 04:39:51 AM 562 Views
i know, right? *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 06:11:33 AM 257 Views
I just use "black" Kronin al'Sulc - 12/01/2010 02:27:16 PM 490 Views
yah, that's what i typically do... LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 02:28:39 PM 563 Views
I agree. Say what you mean. Tim - 12/01/2010 10:03:37 PM 534 Views
How many "black" people do you know that are truely black? Danu - 13/01/2010 05:10:44 AM 508 Views
how many white people do you know are WHITE? *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 05:26:36 AM 230 Views
Why is it OK to discriminate on the grounds of language but not race? Tim - 12/01/2010 08:23:21 AM 644 Views
Please tell me you were joking... *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 01:29:37 PM 221 Views
Not in the least. I thought you knew me better than that. Tim - 12/01/2010 09:44:59 PM 485 Views
Ah! You were looking for an active rebuttal Tom - 13/01/2010 01:48:20 PM 455 Views
It is okay to discriminate based on language... LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 01:40:18 PM 563 Views
Your AAE is a language the way that Pig Latin is a language. MightyYT - 12/01/2010 06:38:35 PM 523 Views
You know, arguing what a language is with a linguist is pretty much set up for failure *NM* Floffe - 12/01/2010 07:58:42 PM 359 Views
I recall having a similar discussion on this very topic a few years ago with Tim. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 08:10:53 PM 422 Views
Re: I recall having a similar discussion on this very topic a few years ago with Tim. Floffe - 12/01/2010 09:06:01 PM 548 Views
Maybe, but having knowledge of the topic wasn't one of my advantages in that argument. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 03:36:31 AM 210 Views
I don't even know where to begin. Tim - 12/01/2010 09:43:21 PM 593 Views
That third point is going a bit far. Legolas - 12/01/2010 10:06:08 PM 553 Views
You're right, I was conflating two separate points. Tim - 12/01/2010 10:14:48 PM 496 Views
Well, it still only applies... Legolas - 12/01/2010 10:24:08 PM 639 Views
You ascribe too much intelligence to the average American racist . Tim - 12/01/2010 10:30:39 PM 715 Views
You're guessing at people's motives and making what appear to be broad, unsupported assertions Isaac - 12/01/2010 11:04:47 PM 545 Views
I don't mean they're racist in all respects. Tim - 13/01/2010 06:52:20 AM 458 Views
Your defintion of racism and sexism seems to massively differ from mine Isaac - 13/01/2010 03:37:46 PM 602 Views
I had to think about this for a few days, but I've now worked out my answer. Tim - 16/01/2010 01:59:25 PM 563 Views
First off, thanks for giving a detailed answer... Isaac - 16/01/2010 03:53:32 PM 676 Views
That it was a stupid thing to say? snoopcester - 12/01/2010 09:49:05 AM 579 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 12/01/2010 01:07:46 PM 252 Views
I had no problems with them. And I don't even like the guy and hope he loses his reelection battle. The Shrike - 12/01/2010 03:32:42 PM 600 Views
Who seriously uses the term "Negro dialect" anymore? beckstcw - 13/01/2010 02:00:15 AM 484 Views
the subject is race. and party lines. LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 05:27:39 AM 476 Views
It's not the word "Negro" in "Magic Negro" that's the most offensive part. *NM* Legolas - 13/01/2010 09:16:20 AM 218 Views
Powell, Rice and Steele. Just food for thought. *NM* Vodalus - 13/01/2010 08:12:18 PM 307 Views
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