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I had no problems with them. And I don't even like the guy and hope he loses his reelection battle. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 03:32:42 PM
Though the practice of preferring lighter-skinned Black people to darker-skinned Black people is racist, the comment about that is not inherently racist in my eyes. This even extends to women's hair as NYT article pointed out. Afros on men/women versus straightening of hair to make it more "white". It's just the truth. Same as saying that men have it easier than women in the workplace. That is not being sexist. That is stating a truth. Now the practice of preferring men to women is sexist.

Just like if I were to use the words nigger or kike in this sentence to elaborate a point would not be racist but using them to describe people would be.

So yes, it is a truth that to be a lighter-skinned Black may make it easier to be elected. And that is not racist in my eyes. And the diction of the speaker just completes the package. To me, though, it is always about education. The "blackcent" that Bill Cosby refers to is a sign of lack of education. And that is not something that I want in a leader.

I'm tired of the hyper-sensitivity of the American populace to race.
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So what EXACTLY is the problem with Reid's comments? Tom - 12/01/2010 04:11:56 AM 880 Views
it wasn't just that he commented on the lack of "dialect" damookster - 12/01/2010 04:16:27 AM 594 Views
Regardless of that, I don't see the ability to use dialect as a racist statement. Tom - 12/01/2010 04:32:07 AM 544 Views
I agree damookster - 12/01/2010 04:36:23 AM 563 Views
That's what I was thinking... Legolas - 12/01/2010 08:52:32 AM 571 Views
when was the last time you heard a white person speaking ebonics? LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 01:41:24 PM 554 Views
A week or so ago. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 08:09:09 PM 490 Views
About a day for me. a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:33:40 PM 565 Views
Yeah, I'm back in Boston now, so... Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 03:33:38 AM 459 Views
Isn't that the definition of a wigger? A white person who speaks/acts like a black person? Tim - 12/01/2010 09:49:34 PM 523 Views
So black person = N****r? Reid's looking better and better. *NM* a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:34:37 PM 250 Views
You know Tim isn't saying that. Rebekah - 12/01/2010 10:43:43 PM 515 Views
Um, what? Tim - 13/01/2010 06:55:21 AM 514 Views
And the fact that Wigger = White N****r isn't racist at all! *NM* a fan of Rolan dcs - 12/01/2010 10:33:04 PM 284 Views
I wasn't using the term seriously 9_9 LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 04:26:20 AM 486 Views
Mocking white people for "acting like black people" by modifying a slur on blacks... hm... *NM* Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 06:50:46 AM 218 Views
The problem is he's a politician PhoenixReborn - 12/01/2010 04:35:51 AM 583 Views
because that would solve our problems. *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 04:37:18 AM 242 Views
You know, what IS a good term for black people these days? LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 04:36:33 AM 591 Views
technically... damookster - 12/01/2010 04:39:51 AM 562 Views
i know, right? *NM* LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 06:11:33 AM 257 Views
I just use "black" Kronin al'Sulc - 12/01/2010 02:27:16 PM 490 Views
yah, that's what i typically do... LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 02:28:39 PM 563 Views
I agree. Say what you mean. Tim - 12/01/2010 10:03:37 PM 534 Views
How many "black" people do you know that are truely black? Danu - 13/01/2010 05:10:44 AM 509 Views
how many white people do you know are WHITE? *NM* LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 05:26:36 AM 231 Views
Why is it OK to discriminate on the grounds of language but not race? Tim - 12/01/2010 08:23:21 AM 644 Views
Please tell me you were joking... *NM* Tom - 12/01/2010 01:29:37 PM 221 Views
Not in the least. I thought you knew me better than that. Tim - 12/01/2010 09:44:59 PM 485 Views
Ah! You were looking for an active rebuttal Tom - 13/01/2010 01:48:20 PM 455 Views
It is okay to discriminate based on language... LadyLorraine - 12/01/2010 01:40:18 PM 563 Views
Your AAE is a language the way that Pig Latin is a language. MightyYT - 12/01/2010 06:38:35 PM 523 Views
You know, arguing what a language is with a linguist is pretty much set up for failure *NM* Floffe - 12/01/2010 07:58:42 PM 359 Views
I recall having a similar discussion on this very topic a few years ago with Tim. Ghavrel - 12/01/2010 08:10:53 PM 422 Views
Re: I recall having a similar discussion on this very topic a few years ago with Tim. Floffe - 12/01/2010 09:06:01 PM 548 Views
Maybe, but having knowledge of the topic wasn't one of my advantages in that argument. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/01/2010 03:36:31 AM 210 Views
I don't even know where to begin. Tim - 12/01/2010 09:43:21 PM 593 Views
That third point is going a bit far. Legolas - 12/01/2010 10:06:08 PM 553 Views
You're right, I was conflating two separate points. Tim - 12/01/2010 10:14:48 PM 496 Views
Well, it still only applies... Legolas - 12/01/2010 10:24:08 PM 639 Views
You ascribe too much intelligence to the average American racist . Tim - 12/01/2010 10:30:39 PM 715 Views
You're guessing at people's motives and making what appear to be broad, unsupported assertions Isaac - 12/01/2010 11:04:47 PM 545 Views
I don't mean they're racist in all respects. Tim - 13/01/2010 06:52:20 AM 458 Views
Your defintion of racism and sexism seems to massively differ from mine Isaac - 13/01/2010 03:37:46 PM 602 Views
I had to think about this for a few days, but I've now worked out my answer. Tim - 16/01/2010 01:59:25 PM 563 Views
First off, thanks for giving a detailed answer... Isaac - 16/01/2010 03:53:32 PM 676 Views
That it was a stupid thing to say? snoopcester - 12/01/2010 09:49:05 AM 579 Views
this. *NM* Avendesora - 12/01/2010 01:07:46 PM 252 Views
I had no problems with them. And I don't even like the guy and hope he loses his reelection battle. The Shrike - 12/01/2010 03:32:42 PM 601 Views
Who seriously uses the term "Negro dialect" anymore? beckstcw - 13/01/2010 02:00:15 AM 484 Views
the subject is race. and party lines. LadyLorraine - 13/01/2010 05:27:39 AM 476 Views
It's not the word "Negro" in "Magic Negro" that's the most offensive part. *NM* Legolas - 13/01/2010 09:16:20 AM 218 Views
Powell, Rice and Steele. Just food for thought. *NM* Vodalus - 13/01/2010 08:12:18 PM 307 Views
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