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You're putting your cart before your horse is the problem. Joel Send a noteboard - 23/11/2009 05:40:46 AM
These people should be executed because of what they have done, not because of who they are. They plotted to kill thousands of Americans and then executed that plot. They were apprehended in the course of a war against their armed irregular group. To say they are entitled to "life and liberty" is patently absurd - the preamble to the Constitution has no legal force, and even if it did, it is obvious that its "protections" would not apply to enemies of the nation intent upon its destruction. Indeed, the one thing one isn't allowed to do is attempt to overthrow the government, yet this group seeks to do that, among other atrocities.

You're absolutely right, they should be executed because of what they've done (though I concede my magnanimity is slight in admitting a point that was mine. ;)) So prove that in court and carry out the sentence. Again, it shouldn't be all that hard, unless we screw the evidenciary pooch because we've prejudged them guilty (see Simpson, Orenthal James. )

In America, people have the right to a trial before we execute them; call me old fashioned, but I prefer it that way if only because I run my yap about as much online as that poor SOB we had the Syrians torture for a year because "we don't torture. " If we find them guilty their lives may well be forfeit, but convict them then execute them, don't just execute them.
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I will if you will. - 20/11/2009 02:55:30 PM 601 Views
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In this case my reading comprehension is more than adequate. - 24/11/2009 09:16:39 AM 539 Views
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Allow me to point out... - 20/11/2009 03:02:33 PM 529 Views
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Military struggles involve militaries. - 20/11/2009 03:23:14 PM 685 Views
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You're not going far enough, man. - 20/11/2009 11:03:08 AM 582 Views
Blah blah blah blah blah *NM* - 20/11/2009 01:57:39 PM 248 Views
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The Code of Conduct - 20/11/2009 07:23:02 PM 623 Views
The mention of God is interesting. *NM* - 21/11/2009 05:24:14 AM 358 Views
Your little diatribe in the beginning only makes me glad... - 22/11/2009 05:32:57 AM 665 Views
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Works for me. - 01/12/2009 09:12:29 AM 579 Views

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