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Some questions and comments: Danu Send a noteboard - 09/11/2009 09:37:56 PM
Had a presentation from an industry poultry veterinarian. Just found this little bit interesting.

A veterinarian employed by the poultry industry will probably put a positive spin on the industry that writes his checks.

Average Size of a Chicken House: about 44 ft x 400 ft

Average number of chickens per house: about 23k

Average Chickens/sq.ft : roughly 1.5

Hmmm...see I have problems with "Averages"
On average Vermonters are less obese than the average American but that does not mean most Vermonters are not obese.

Now think how small a growing chicken is. Most chickens are taken to slaughter at between 4.5-6 lbs, so we aren't talking fully grown chickens either.

Why do the beaks have to be cut off then? Oh right. Stress

Until a very late stage of growth...that's really not that crowded at all.

Some other facts from a previous poultry industry class:

Houses are maintained at around 75 F and well ventilated to promote respiratory health and disease prevention

Steroids are NOT used in the chicken industry.

Maybe not, but have they been genetically altered to grow larger breasts? (the breast being the more preferred part of the chicken)



The industry has begun to slow the growth of the chickens and increase vit.D/Calcium intake in chicken diets to prevent bone-growth issues.

That would be because they grow so rapidly that their bones are not developed well enough to support them. Because hundreds of millions of chickens die every year before reaching slaughter weight at 6 weeks of age, the industry is hoping that by slowing the growth and with the increase of vit.D/Calcium they will be able to extend the life and economic value of more chickens.


I'm definitely not saying the industry is perfect. But it's also no where near as horrible as people make it out to be.


I had an uncle who worked in a chicken possessing plant/slaughter house for six months until he couldn't take in any longer. I suggest you do the same.
CrazedWeasel
OCWIATJ Forever!
This message last edited by Danu on 09/11/2009 at 09:41:14 PM
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On "Chicken Crowding" LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:09:38 PM 837 Views
um nossy - 09/11/2009 06:16:06 PM 608 Views
mk, some clarification LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 06:33:17 PM 546 Views
you obviously have not seen the documentary "Food Inc" , please watch it *NM* Aisha - 09/11/2009 08:09:28 PM 302 Views
I seem to be in the middle of you two nossy - 09/11/2009 08:16:26 PM 545 Views
Yes, because those are never false LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:54:57 PM 527 Views
Citing movie documentaries as necessary "reading" material... Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:34:10 AM 427 Views
Raserei! *NM* Ghavrel - 10/11/2009 08:44:39 AM 235 Views
Bonjour. *NM* Raserei - 10/11/2009 09:43:06 PM 227 Views
Just saw that last night. Mad Cow Bomber - 10/11/2009 11:11:30 AM 531 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:17 AM 476 Views
even just reading the fact check (what I did), that's pretty awful. nossy - 10/11/2009 03:07:39 PM 468 Views
This might help snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:13:18 AM 445 Views
Yea, but.. the smell. Kel - 09/11/2009 08:19:54 PM 524 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:10:57 AM 435 Views
Strongly? Kel - 10/11/2009 03:17:40 AM 424 Views
Chicken = yummy. *NM* Tigr - 09/11/2009 08:33:01 PM 353 Views
Ya know... MightyYT - 09/11/2009 08:49:32 PM 454 Views
that's half the reason i get so up in arms for the industry LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 10:57:05 PM 525 Views
Not all vegetarians are militant, ya know. Cockatiel of Doom - 10/11/2009 10:30:58 PM 541 Views
Which is great if you can only think in binary snoopcester - 09/11/2009 10:59:29 PM 444 Views
free range has a lot of issues people don't know about LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:15:10 PM 481 Views
Indeed, it isn't perfect. snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:31:36 PM 423 Views
i would pick the regulated one. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:32:50 PM 426 Views
Well that is a clear issue snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:44:07 PM 402 Views
ah well good for the UK then LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:46:29 PM 442 Views
To correct myself, it is actually an EU standard snoopcester - 10/11/2009 11:56:38 AM 524 Views
yeah Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:16:19 AM 536 Views
the pain problem with the diesase management LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:21:31 AM 407 Views
I suggest you shut the flock up. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:30:28 AM 580 Views
you are horrible LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 02:37:15 AM 524 Views
flock-to-flock contamination is quite a problem if you're trying to not feed the birds antibiotics. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:59:10 AM 486 Views
Free range gays? Raserei - 10/11/2009 06:35:39 AM 366 Views
well theoretically LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:02:16 PM 364 Views
Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:31:58 PM 346 Views
Ummm... Danu - 10/11/2009 08:05:20 PM 473 Views
they're scattered here and there LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 08:22:31 PM 349 Views
I didn't find any posts that damning or anything. everynametaken - 11/11/2009 03:25:07 AM 447 Views
the only other one I've seen was by Nate snoopcester - 11/11/2009 10:58:21 AM 416 Views
Some questions and comments: Danu - 09/11/2009 09:37:56 PM 545 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:07:32 PM 467 Views
Re: Some questions and comments: LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:19:07 PM 479 Views
Dear meathead snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:33:36 PM 491 Views
i was not referring specifically to you. LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:35:01 PM 385 Views
Fair enough, I didn't realise you were making unrelated comments for no clear reason snoopcester - 09/11/2009 11:42:59 PM 381 Views
it was related to what you were saying about standards LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:44:27 PM 361 Views
No, it was not related to what I was saying about chicken raising standards snoopcester - 10/11/2009 10:55:18 AM 367 Views
LOL, sorry sis, but the meathead thing was cute. Methinks I have a new nickname for my favoritest. StarrBecca - 10/11/2009 12:43:08 AM 456 Views
great LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 12:46:28 AM 356 Views
*sigh* LadyLorraine - 09/11/2009 11:14:27 PM 488 Views
You should use the quote box thingy on the far right of the Smiley Codes, it would make it easier Danu - 10/11/2009 01:01:02 AM 435 Views
ah, thank you for pointing that box out, i hadn't seen it. LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:30:50 AM 535 Views
right on. temeraire - 10/11/2009 05:20:48 PM 382 Views
we modified every domestic animal we have random thoughts - 10/11/2009 05:36:37 PM 348 Views
especially chickens. Chickens haven't even really ever lived in the wild... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 05:25:20 PM 435 Views
I know what you're trying to say, and I believe you. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:54:09 AM 473 Views
most domesticated animals don't eat what they'd "naturally" eat LadyLorraine - 10/11/2009 01:10:36 PM 403 Views
true. But I think at this point we are getting away from commercially raised and more towards pets. Avendesora - 10/11/2009 02:29:01 PM 465 Views
A full-grown chicken needs 4sq ft coop and 10 sq ft outside space... LaSombra - 15/11/2009 12:51:00 AM 405 Views
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