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No, I never said anything of the sort Tom Send a noteboard - 20/10/2009 03:14:07 PM
The worker-employer relationship is a contractual one. When an employee signs up, the employer gives the employee the terms (and in some cases, the employee can negotiate them).

When you start work with an employer, the employer tells you how much vacation you get, how many sick days you can claim without going on medical leave, what the maternity leave policy is of the company, what sort of insurance and other benefits (such as 401k matching contributions) you are entitled to. It also sets how much it will pay you.

In exchange, the employer expects that you will WORK. That's the whole point of getting paid and getting benefits. If some person (in this case the expectant father) doesn't take a sick day, doesn't warn the employer ahead of time of a situation at home and hasn't any leave left, he's supposed to be at work on time and performing as expected.

If the employee doesn't do that, I don't see why the employer has some moral duty NOT to fire the employee.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Have you ever had to fire someone? - 19/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 715 Views
ouch that's rough - 19/10/2009 03:45:27 PM 452 Views
Yes. I still have my job. - 19/10/2009 03:59:12 PM 428 Views
i've never had to myself, but... - 19/10/2009 04:19:38 PM 494 Views
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Absolutely. - 19/10/2009 06:06:05 PM 458 Views
"coming down from ON high" is the proper expression - 19/10/2009 09:46:41 PM 455 Views
Thank you. I did not know that. *NM* - 20/10/2009 01:38:46 AM 161 Views
...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM* - 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM 177 Views
As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant - 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM 449 Views
Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure. - 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM 462 Views
I'm with you... - 19/10/2009 11:32:08 PM 454 Views
Thats not at all what I'm saying - 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM 427 Views
Lots of assumptions. - 20/10/2009 01:54:02 AM 381 Views
Like I said... assumptions - 20/10/2009 01:40:23 PM 477 Views
Can you work and give birth at the same time? - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM 444 Views
Oh. - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM 437 Views
Re: Oh. - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM 445 Views
LOL - 20/10/2009 01:51:34 PM 375 Views
I hadn't read that, it was posted after I commented - 20/10/2009 10:49:19 PM 380 Views
I agree. Companies aren't charities. - 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM 395 Views
So you're against maternity pay? - 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM 445 Views
Where I work you have to use your sick leave and annual leave to cover maternity leave. - 20/10/2009 01:26:34 AM 395 Views
Same with my job... - 20/10/2009 01:56:00 AM 376 Views
And nobody gets special treatment. *NM* - 22/10/2009 01:16:13 AM 169 Views
Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting. - 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM 392 Views
But that's what I was addressing when I talked about his choice. - 20/10/2009 01:54:30 PM 391 Views
That's why it's an employer and not a social worker... - 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM 449 Views
How is this any different from sick leave? - 20/10/2009 10:20:50 PM 449 Views
Because the person is not there, mainly. - 21/10/2009 12:54:39 AM 417 Views
You pick up the slack because you're a super-wonderful person - 20/10/2009 10:56:04 PM 413 Views
No, I never said anything of the sort - 20/10/2009 03:14:07 PM 413 Views
I was simply saying - 20/10/2009 11:00:09 PM 359 Views
Had that happen to me. - 19/10/2009 04:15:45 PM 435 Views
I'm very sorry - 19/10/2009 05:35:57 PM 411 Views
Man that stinks. :/ - 19/10/2009 06:52:04 PM 442 Views
Yep... Hated it too. - 19/10/2009 07:48:31 PM 400 Views
It takes a special person to be a supervisor/manager. - 20/10/2009 01:21:42 AM 461 Views
Did he deserve it???? good question. - 20/10/2009 01:38:29 AM 478 Views
Seems like the answer is yes - 20/10/2009 01:37:15 PM 401 Views
Hmm - sounds to me like your boss is a coward - 29/10/2009 02:48:30 AM 373 Views
I have fired four people. - 20/10/2009 11:02:35 AM 436 Views
Why have I got an image of someone walking the plank? - 20/10/2009 10:52:30 PM 403 Views
Yep - and it sucks - 20/10/2009 07:05:35 PM 405 Views

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