Can you work and give birth at the same time?
TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM
I mean really... I'm not blaming lurker here, she's clearly very distressed, but the call from higher up seems very unfair. They should have recognised his situation and made allowances.
Perhaps he could have recognized his situation and made allowances for himself. He certainly had options other than not preparing and not being on time.
We live in a society where people shouldn't be at a disadvantage becauser they have children, I imagine it's difficult to manage a newborn and be totally punctual and prepared, you'd expect the company to have policy's that deal with new parents and allow them to work in less important positions until they're back to normal (or as normal as you can be with a child).
People shouldn't be at a disadvantage for not having children either, and holding employees with the same contract and responsibilities to a different set of standards isn't the answer.
Once again, I'm not laying into the OP, you're clearly very upset by this. I'd recomend you make your feelings known to the people higher up to avoid these kind of things in future. If someones slacking giving them the kick is fine, but for a new farther who's 'head is in the shed' it's not his fault if he's not up to his usual standards, it's the company's for not making the necessary allowances.
I disagree. It IS his fault if his performance suffers (however understandable the reason for it is). There's a difference between "not up to his usual standards" and "not up to the company's standards". Presumably the first can be worked with, but it's unreasonable for the 2nd to be.
Look, I'm not saying it's a nice thing to do to somebody (and we obviously don't have all the information about the situation), but from a business perspective, I can understand it.
The point is it happens to most people at some point and its difficult for a lot of people... have you ever thought that he might not want to ask for help, egos bruise easily.
We dont know all the facts as you say, but simply stating that if someone who "falls below company standard" after just having become a parent (sleepless nights and all) deserves to be sacked is a horrible thing to say. Obsiously if he wasn't good before the child and this has just exposed the problem further, then I can accept that, but for sacking an otherwise competent employee at a one off highly stressful time for making a mistake isn't right.
We're into speculation so I'll leave it there.
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- 19/10/2009 03:34:57 PM
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ouch that's rough
- 19/10/2009 03:45:27 PM
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Yes. I still have my job.
- 19/10/2009 03:59:12 PM
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Re: Yes. I still have my job.
- 19/10/2009 06:03:40 PM
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Absolutely.
- 19/10/2009 06:06:05 PM
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...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM*
- 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM
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As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant
- 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM
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Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure.
- 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM
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I'm with you...
- 19/10/2009 11:32:08 PM
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Thats not at all what I'm saying
- 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM
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I agree. Companies aren't charities.
- 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM
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So you're against maternity pay?
- 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM
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Where I work you have to use your sick leave and annual leave to cover maternity leave.
- 20/10/2009 01:26:34 AM
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Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting.
- 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM
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That's why it's an employer and not a social worker...
- 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM
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It takes a special person to be a supervisor/manager.
- 20/10/2009 01:21:42 AM
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Did he deserve it???? good question.
- 20/10/2009 01:38:29 AM
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Did he try to transfer? Or did he procrastinate or blow off your suggestion?
- 21/10/2009 03:39:57 AM
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