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Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure. Sareitha Sedai Send a noteboard - 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM
I mean really... I'm not blaming lurker here, she's clearly very distressed, but the call from higher up seems very unfair. They should have recognised his situation and made allowances.


Perhaps he could have recognized his situation and made allowances for himself. He certainly had options other than not preparing and not being on time.

We live in a society where people shouldn't be at a disadvantage becauser they have children, I imagine it's difficult to manage a newborn and be totally punctual and prepared, you'd expect the company to have policy's that deal with new parents and allow them to work in less important positions until they're back to normal (or as normal as you can be with a child).


People shouldn't be at a disadvantage for not having children either, and holding employees with the same contract and responsibilities to a different set of standards isn't the answer.

Once again, I'm not laying into the OP, you're clearly very upset by this. I'd recomend you make your feelings known to the people higher up to avoid these kind of things in future. If someones slacking giving them the kick is fine, but for a new farther who's 'head is in the shed' it's not his fault if he's not up to his usual standards, it's the company's for not making the necessary allowances.


I disagree. It IS his fault if his performance suffers (however understandable the reason for it is). There's a difference between "not up to his usual standards" and "not up to the company's standards". Presumably the first can be worked with, but it's unreasonable for the 2nd to be.

Look, I'm not saying it's a nice thing to do to somebody (and we obviously don't have all the information about the situation), but from a business perspective, I can understand it.
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Have you ever had to fire someone? - 19/10/2009 03:34:57 PM 715 Views
ouch that's rough - 19/10/2009 03:45:27 PM 453 Views
Yes. I still have my job. - 19/10/2009 03:59:12 PM 428 Views
i've never had to myself, but... - 19/10/2009 04:19:38 PM 495 Views
Re: Yes. I still have my job. - 19/10/2009 06:03:40 PM 400 Views
Absolutely. - 19/10/2009 06:06:05 PM 459 Views
"coming down from ON high" is the proper expression - 19/10/2009 09:46:41 PM 456 Views
Thank you. I did not know that. *NM* - 20/10/2009 01:38:46 AM 162 Views
...does that matter if he didn't do his job, and that had negative consequences for the company? *NM* - 19/10/2009 06:28:03 PM 178 Views
As long as its ok for people to sack women who get pregnant - 19/10/2009 07:59:58 PM 449 Views
Women who get pregnant and are using that as an excuse to not do their jobs? Sure. - 19/10/2009 09:11:56 PM 463 Views
I'm with you... - 19/10/2009 11:32:08 PM 455 Views
Thats not at all what I'm saying - 20/10/2009 12:40:28 AM 427 Views
Lots of assumptions. - 20/10/2009 01:54:02 AM 381 Views
Like I said... assumptions - 20/10/2009 01:40:23 PM 478 Views
Can you work and give birth at the same time? - 20/10/2009 12:27:45 AM 444 Views
Oh. - 20/10/2009 01:32:59 PM 438 Views
Re: Oh. - 20/10/2009 01:47:33 PM 446 Views
LOL - 20/10/2009 01:51:34 PM 375 Views
I hadn't read that, it was posted after I commented - 20/10/2009 10:49:19 PM 380 Views
I agree. Companies aren't charities. - 19/10/2009 09:47:43 PM 396 Views
So you're against maternity pay? - 20/10/2009 12:29:07 AM 446 Views
Where I work you have to use your sick leave and annual leave to cover maternity leave. - 20/10/2009 01:26:34 AM 395 Views
Same with my job... - 20/10/2009 01:56:00 AM 376 Views
And nobody gets special treatment. *NM* - 22/10/2009 01:16:13 AM 169 Views
Thats just one of the variations of maternity leave I was suggesting. - 20/10/2009 01:50:11 PM 392 Views
But that's what I was addressing when I talked about his choice. - 20/10/2009 01:54:30 PM 391 Views
That's why it's an employer and not a social worker... - 20/10/2009 09:58:00 PM 449 Views
How is this any different from sick leave? - 20/10/2009 10:20:50 PM 450 Views
Because the person is not there, mainly. - 21/10/2009 12:54:39 AM 417 Views
You pick up the slack because you're a super-wonderful person - 20/10/2009 10:56:04 PM 413 Views
No, I never said anything of the sort - 20/10/2009 03:14:07 PM 413 Views
I was simply saying - 20/10/2009 11:00:09 PM 360 Views
Had that happen to me. - 19/10/2009 04:15:45 PM 436 Views
I'm very sorry - 19/10/2009 05:35:57 PM 412 Views
Man that stinks. :/ - 19/10/2009 06:52:04 PM 443 Views
Yep... Hated it too. - 19/10/2009 07:48:31 PM 400 Views
It takes a special person to be a supervisor/manager. - 20/10/2009 01:21:42 AM 461 Views
Did he deserve it???? good question. - 20/10/2009 01:38:29 AM 479 Views
Seems like the answer is yes - 20/10/2009 01:37:15 PM 401 Views
Hmm - sounds to me like your boss is a coward - 29/10/2009 02:48:30 AM 373 Views
I have fired four people. - 20/10/2009 11:02:35 AM 436 Views
Why have I got an image of someone walking the plank? - 20/10/2009 10:52:30 PM 403 Views
Yep - and it sucks - 20/10/2009 07:05:35 PM 405 Views

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