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I'm sorry but you are wrong. It is the third greatest melt on record. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 14/10/2009 05:38:02 PM
Are these the same scientists who had said earlier it was probably going to be ice-free this year?


2007 has the biggest melt followed by 2008 and 2009.


The US National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado reported that the 2009 melt saw the Arctic ice cap shrink to 5.1 million square kilometres (1.97 million square miles) by mid-September, before beginning to expand again. This puts 2009 third behind 2008 and 2007’s record year for ice-cap melt. But minimum ice cover was still 20 per cent less this year than the 30-year average since satellite monitoring began in 1979.

Furthermore,

The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has reported, meanwhile, that the June-August ocean surface temperature average reached 16.95 degrees Celsius (62.5 deg. Fahrenheit), the highest since records began in 1880. The combined land and ocean surface temperature for the same period was the third-warmest on record.

Not to mention that if you look at ice thickness, the amount of melt continues to increase. The volume of ice has decreased and continues to decrease.
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Oh...by the way...we may have been wrong about that whole "Global Warming" thing Tom - 14/10/2009 03:23:53 PM 1208 Views
This was posted on 10.10.09 by Trzkaska2000. 138 views. 15 replies. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 03:32:52 PM 419 Views
Your point being...? *NM* Tom - 14/10/2009 03:53:56 PM 178 Views
That your post is repetitive. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 05:33:05 PM 376 Views
I didn't see Traszka's post.. @my - 14/10/2009 06:34:05 PM 392 Views
No. I think my post is rather better. It has my priceless comments around the article. Tom - 14/10/2009 06:56:41 PM 366 Views
Your post is neither better nor worse. Same thing but reposted. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 08:23:55 PM 349 Views
They replied to someone else's post and viewpoint and insight. Tom - 14/10/2009 09:06:32 PM 370 Views
From your viewpoint. Not from mine. *NM* The Shrike - 14/10/2009 09:57:01 PM 187 Views
Perhaps. Either way, though, I'm egotistical enough not to care that it was posted elsewhere before *NM* Tom - 15/10/2009 03:45:14 AM 202 Views
In fairness, I only replied after you pointed towards that other thread in here. Legolas - 14/10/2009 10:08:53 PM 342 Views
Within a decade, the North Pole will be ice-free during the summer beetnemesis - 14/10/2009 03:35:31 PM 511 Views
That's strange, considering it melted less this summer than usual. Tom - 14/10/2009 03:55:28 PM 395 Views
I'm sorry but you are wrong. It is the third greatest melt on record. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 05:38:02 PM 344 Views
what were the odds that they would have found anything else? random thoughts - 14/10/2009 03:58:49 PM 414 Views
Who called it? *Double thumbs* This guy. This guy called it. *NM* Joker - 14/10/2009 04:13:43 PM 316 Views
Re: Oh...by the way...we may have been wrong about that whole "Global Warming" thing Palatine - 14/10/2009 04:36:57 PM 425 Views
I registered it as a bug Tom - 14/10/2009 04:40:20 PM 355 Views
I think it's been registered as a bug about 6 times now. *NM* Rebekah - 14/10/2009 05:52:04 PM 175 Views
I personally did it four times. *NM* Craig - 14/10/2009 11:29:53 PM 203 Views
Possible Consequences of taking global warming seriously... Dannymac - 14/10/2009 04:37:32 PM 443 Views
Increased cost for everyone Tom - 14/10/2009 04:42:07 PM 384 Views
Increased costs? Ryan - 14/10/2009 05:11:11 PM 429 Views
You misunderstand my position. Tom - 14/10/2009 05:23:29 PM 420 Views
greed imlad - 14/10/2009 06:45:35 PM 365 Views
That's not how things work. nossy - 14/10/2009 06:50:27 PM 346 Views
Then lets change the way things work. Not as if capitalism is required by the US constition. imlad - 15/10/2009 07:04:51 PM 331 Views
Good luck with that. nossy - 15/10/2009 07:18:17 PM 439 Views
You are really dense if you believe that Tom - 14/10/2009 06:59:43 PM 347 Views
capitalists are the dense ones if they believe that it is even a somewhat good system imlad - 15/10/2009 07:11:47 PM 340 Views
You should meet my boss. nossy - 15/10/2009 07:37:20 PM 431 Views
Tell that to the unwashed idiots who believe you and ruin the world with another revolution. *NM* Tom - 16/10/2009 05:59:01 PM 184 Views
Capitalism is one of the great inventions of the West - and so is socialism. Legolas - 16/10/2009 06:13:12 PM 347 Views
Welcome to Communism! Joker - 14/10/2009 09:45:02 PM 341 Views
communism is a system of government. SOCIALISM is an economic system imlad - 15/10/2009 07:01:16 PM 361 Views
The word communism can mean either political system or economic system or both. The Shrike - 15/10/2009 07:25:59 PM 395 Views
I'm Canadian, actually. Joker - 23/10/2009 11:08:08 PM 324 Views
Cap and trade is an attempt to use the power of the free market - you'd think you'd appreciate that. Legolas - 14/10/2009 10:24:46 PM 430 Views
Cap and trade is something only big companies can really afford Tom - 15/10/2009 03:52:52 AM 524 Views
"Whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and tyrant, and I declare him my enemy." Isaac - 15/10/2009 04:20:21 AM 377 Views
it's about the science, for me. nossy - 14/10/2009 04:46:09 PM 376 Views
Other Possible Consequences of taking global warming seriously... random thoughts - 14/10/2009 06:33:38 PM 364 Views
+1 ironclad - 14/10/2009 06:46:11 PM 360 Views
So you decided to ignore my response? Tom - 14/10/2009 07:02:01 PM 376 Views
No, I just think it's gonna pay off in the long run ironclad - 14/10/2009 07:21:04 PM 378 Views
+ 1 I agree with you completely in here. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 08:19:45 PM 356 Views
So, I guess you are now a Catholic? trzaska2000 - 14/10/2009 09:49:21 PM 422 Views
Bitch, please. The Shrike - 14/10/2009 09:58:07 PM 406 Views
No worries, most catholics aren't even catholics..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 15/10/2009 05:47:58 AM 136 Views
Precisely. *NM* ironclad - 15/10/2009 08:44:44 AM 230 Views
I hope you're not suggesting the Global Warming is only a rallying cry for the Right? Joker - 14/10/2009 09:48:22 PM 389 Views
It looked like he was saying the opposite. TaskmasterJack - 14/10/2009 10:18:03 PM 355 Views
The ends don't justify the means..... trzaska2000 - 14/10/2009 09:41:47 PM 403 Views
You missed my point... Dannymac - 15/10/2009 04:18:11 PM 348 Views
Vodalus - 14/10/2009 08:07:54 PM 356 Views
No worries, it's worth a second post!!! AGW is total BS..... trzaska2000 - 14/10/2009 09:39:20 PM 484 Views
+1 *NM* Joker - 14/10/2009 09:49:01 PM 166 Views
I probably would have just responded if I had seen that you had posted Tom - 15/10/2009 03:54:29 AM 355 Views
I love how even when people factor in cosmic rays the naysayers reject findings they dislike. Joel - 15/10/2009 05:07:31 AM 440 Views
Well, it's good to see that some folks still actually follow science rather than politics SilverWarder - 16/10/2009 05:04:17 PM 422 Views
Well said, couldn't have said it better *NM* Isaac - 17/10/2009 02:27:14 AM 157 Views
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